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I loved performing a "Color Changing Silk" routine many years ago. I stopped doing my routine because I thought "wrinkled" silks just didn't look professional. I have used both a D-- T--- and T---- T-- in my routine. Anyone have any ideas how to utilize either one of the methods I mentioned without wrinkling the silks? Appreciate any suggestions.
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In the case of the Dye t***, its the time that you store it that takes its toll. I suppose you could develope a way to roll or twist it so that the wrinkles look like a fabric line rahther than a wrinkle. I have had success with finer (heavier) weight silk material.
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While it may "look better" without wrinkles, remember you are poking a silk into a closed hand. The logical outcome is a wrinkled silk.

Magicians is right the longer the silk is stored the more wrinkled it will look, does not matter if you use a dye tube, a TT, or a palmo.
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It is silly to talk about what looks professional and what doesn't look professional. The props and apparatus of a professional magician look well used. Only the amateur who rarely performs can keep his props looking brand spanking new.

That doesn't mean your silks have to look like dirty rags, but don't obsess over a few wrinkles. If you want to be a "professional" silk performer, you carry a steam iron and ironing board with you and keep your silks ironed and rolled around tubes rather than folded. Of course they are NEVER stored inside the gimmicks used in the act. Ade Duval, of "Rhapsody in Silk" fame went way beyond that. He carried two hygrometers so he could check the humidity both on and off stage. He also replaced his silks after about eight weeks of hard use. If you're going to be "professional" about it and do a lengthy silk act, read Duval's book; that's what you're getting yourself into.

If you just have a couple of silk effects in your act, be content to iron them as soon after the performance as possible, and store them rolled so they are always ready for the next show. Load them into gimmicks just before you go on. Then concentrate on your presentation and entertain your audience.
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Maybe try a P***O instead of the DT, as there is more room inside. I find the silks come out less wrinkled and you can fit larger silks in. just my two cents..
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One other way to reduce the amount of wrinkles is to use a heavier weight (momme) of silk.

However, using a heavier silk does mean you have to account for it taking up more room in your change device.

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The opposite is true. The heavier the momme the more wrinkles will hold. Think of it like paper versus construction paper.

James said it correctly. A silk or hanky in your hand is going to look wrinkled when it comes out. Start with a well ironed silk and then don't worry about it. Also pulling the silk between hands can minimize the wrinkled look.

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Huh. Guess I was wrong.

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I ironed a silk tonight for the first time. I stupidly left a new 18" silk in a fake egg over night and it was positively crinkled after that. It's mate was still in pristine condition.

I read a little about it in Volume 1 of Rice's Encyclopedias and first tried ironing it dry at low heat, which helped a little but not enough. I then decided to hold the silk over a steaming kettle for a few seconds and then ironed it again, which produced much better results.

I'll avoid storing my silks crunched up from now on. I don't mind them getting a bit wrinkled, but as I'm using them for a silk-to-egg effect and for 20th century silks, they all have to be more or less equally wrinkled. : )

-Daniel
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You can use steam heat as it will help. I usually iron most of my silk when they are wet. I also use hot heat but I am used to doing it. One problem this time of year is static electricity. If you put a drop or two (no more) in the rinse water, it will help kill the static caused by ironing.

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A drop or two of what?
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I'm sorry....fabric softner

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I use the anti-static spray sometimes. Also, if I am doing a routine that requires a duplicate, I make sure the duplicate is wrinkled also.

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On 2009-03-13 09:51, DanielCoyne wrote:
A drop or two of what?


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I really have to back what Spellbinder says here,

"The props and apparatus of a professional magician look well used. Only the amateur who rarely performs can keep his props looking brand spanking new."

There is a difference between ragged and used. But look at a pro's props in most any field and they will look like a pro's props instead of something new from the shop.

Go to a real recording session, performing orchestra pit, rodeo, stage magic show, dancer/actor dressing room, see a real pro baseball players ball glove, etc. They are not into form over substance. The props are well-used. (We like to say "seasoned".)

During the race we don't stop and wash race cars either!

Get into performing real magic. Housekeeping is not near as much fun!

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My props are usually seasoned..with pizza sauce, burger juices, and wine stains.
When my silks get bad enough, I use them in a soft soap routine. Speaking of which..I could use some soft soap boxes, any leads??
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I think practical magic do soft soap boxes.

Anyhow, I can tell you what not to do for wrinkles and that is leave them all scrunched up in the gimmick between performances (like I do).
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On 2009-03-20 14:50, magicians wrote:
I could use some soft soap boxes, any leads??


Cheap: Dollar Store Soap in boxes. Dump soap out into a plastic bag so you can use it later, and use the boxes for magic!

Cheaper: Check the garbage cans and dumpsters around laundromats. The boxes may be slightly damaged.
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Spellbinder,

Dollar Tree is a great magic shop. My soap boxes come from there but I actually make them from poster board. You get two boxes per sheet and that makes them a quarter a piece on colored stock and six for a dollar on white stock.

My soap boxes are popcorn box size and larger than the real soap boxes but easier to tear up.

However, I'm still open to a better bargain.

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I then decided to hold the silk over a steaming kettle for a few seconds and then ironed it again, which produced much better results.

I'll avoid storing my silks crunched up from now on. I don't mind them getting a bit wrinkled, but as I'm using them for a silk-to-egg effect and for 20th century silks, they all have to be more or less equally wrinkled. : )

-Daniel


I currently don't do shows on a regular basis and unfortunately don't always store my silks properly. But when I need them to look fresh for a show I've always had great success with running them briefly under running water to get them good and wet. Then I iron them still soaking wet on top of a folded up towel on the ironing board, if I need them right away. If not, then I stick them to a large mirror (they stick because they are soaking wet). Stretch them out fairly taut while hanging them on the mirror. Come back in a few hours and your silks will have fallen off the mirror and be quite wrinkle free. You could probably also use a countertop or anything with a smooth glass-like surface, but I've always used a mirror because years ago a magician who did an entire silk act told me that's how he did it in his dressing room.

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Bill
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