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steve_seguin New user London, Ontario 70 Posts |
Hi,
I just read the add for Wallet Wallop in Elmwood Magic's "Disappearing Monthly". Can someone post a review here? Thanks |
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joker808 New user 62 Posts |
Wallet Wallop is an extremely clever card to wallet effect by Hens Fetsch. The (packet trick) sized wallets you get with this effect are made of leather. The effect in my opinion is a fooler. You can also reference this effect in "Card to Wallet" the book by Jerry Mentzer.
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Loz Special user London 777 Posts |
It works a bit like the padlocked deck, but with a repeat. If the wallet is nicely made I think I'll get this.
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Redneck New user 56 Posts |
Wallet is nicely made. It has a little weight to it, feels like leather. It's a great trick.
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
It can't be signed ( the card ) so it's a waste of money.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Redneck New user 56 Posts |
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On 2003-05-12 15:13, MagicChris wrote: Huh? Neither can a thousand other killer effects does that make them a waste? If you think your audience (unless they are all magicians)are really are concerned after a trick about "Hey! I never got to sign that card.", you are mistaken I think. I have never had someone sign their card in my Svengali routine, but yet EVERYTIME they think it is THEIR card popping up in strange places. No waste there, is there? In Wallet Wallop you immediately repeat the card to wallet effect, this time they are REALLY watching you & the wallet which sits on the table during the trick. When they find their card in your inspectable wallet AGAIN, they are blown away, I know - I have performed it at least 30 times already! Let's stop thinking like magicians - and just ENTERTAIN. (but just for the record, you could have both cards signed - if your good enough) |
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joker808 New user 62 Posts |
I agree with redneck, the fact that the card cannot be signed does not detract from the impact this effect has on lay audiences.
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
The card needs to be signed otherwise laymen think there are duplicate cards. I like to have out signed cards to keep.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Logan Inner circle 2286 Posts |
MagicChris, whilst you have a valid point, you must remember that just because it isn't signed, doesn't make the routine any weaker.
You have to observe the actual routine! Take it like a monte-type game, would they want to sign the money card just so they know you have one? Of course, signed card to wallets are THE BOMB, but I seriously wouldn't mind if I had to use a duplicate IF and only IF the routine that supported it was worth it, i.e. entertaining and impossible—and buyers seem to claim that it is... Take care, Logan
You've been hit by, you've been struck by, a smooth criminal.
Singapore's Hairiest Corporate Comedy Magician! |
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
Good points Logan. I don't mind doing a found card routine that isn't signed, as long as I then have them sign the card and it appears in an impossible location. It leads them down the garden path and then I put the hose on them!
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
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MagicChris wrote: I actually find that people think it's kind of weird to sign a card. I don't even ask them to anymore. Anyway, you could use a ploy by Jon Allen (I think it was Jon Allen) and sign the card yourself. Later they will remember it was a signed card only. He used this on TV with his Glink pen for card in the chair. Awesome. Cheers, James
Still with the Chinese circus
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
Having my signature doesn't prove I don't have a duplicate. I want their signature.
The way I do it, they don't think it's weird. I do an effect without it signed. Then tell them "I know what you're thinking, I have a duplicate of this card. Well, to prove I don't, please sign the face in big bold letters." It makes perfect sense to them.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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ChrisMagic52 Loyal user North Vancouver, Canada 216 Posts |
I'm really picky on tricks nowadays because I'm short on cash. From reading these comments of Wallet Wallop, I think I will have to pass on this one.
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joker808 New user 62 Posts |
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Then tell them "I know what you're thinking, I have a duplicate of this card." What if they weren't thinking about that at all? Answer, they are now. |
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Jason Wethington Special user Orlando, Fl 615 Posts |
Right on joker!
MagicChris I do a multiple selection routine with the cards ending up in three impossible locations. None of them are signed. It has always received great reactions. The reason is at the end I spread the deck face up on the table. If they are thinking "Hey, what about duplicates?" this proves them wrong and I don't have to SAY anything. Having a card signed is weird to people, as James pointed out. I do two to three card effects in my walk around set. I only have a card signed for one effect. Just a little thought there, Jason |
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david_a_whitehead Inner circle USA 2122 Posts |
Does this trick require a force?
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BigCityMagic New user 18 Posts |
It does, but it can easily be changed to different cards. The force is pretty clver as well.
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h_A_Z Special user Ireland/Msia 701 Posts |
Can the deck be examined? I don't want to have to gimmick the deck for me to perform this routine.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
In the effect the spectator deals all the cards in the deck while searching for their card. It takes away from the presentation but proves that the card is actually GONE! This was my 1st card in wallet effect I owned and loved the sneakyness behind the whole trick.
This made it fun to perform. |
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gadfly3d Special user 963 Posts |
OK just a interesting story about this effect and those who do it will understand. The late Paul Gretxinger and I worked together at a small theme park in KY (Guntown Mt.) and when it was rainy and we had a small crowd we did closeup magic rather than the regular show. Paul was doing WW and had done the necessary work for the 2nd part when a spectator slapped his hand down on the wallet and said "I defy you to do that again." Which of course he did. now how great was that!
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