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DanielCoyne Special user Western Massachussetts 544 Posts |
So after playing with back palming, fans, and productions off and on for about 10 years, I finally bought some fanning powder. I'm not sure why I waited so long...I guess I didn't think I had practiced sufficiently to deserve it. Like it was cheating.
Another reason, is that I didn't really understand what it would do. I thought it would make the cards very slippery, which didn't seem like it would be a big help, frankly. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that in fact, it kind of makes the cards stickier -- and yet fan more evenly and handle more predictably. I'm still a bit befuddled by the feel of the cards...almost like dough with flour. (Maybe Tannens is cutting their powder with flour.) I'm not 100% sure if I like it, but I already feel a significant jump in control. How many here use fanning powder, and what do you think it does for you? Also, how and how often do you apply it? I put some in a sock and dusted the front and back of each card, based on Charlie Frye's Eccentricks 3. -Daniel |
danielguo Regular user 146 Posts |
WEll.
I ust it .. I put it on mu murph's cards but only once.. it 's become dirty sometimes. but it can be fan well than before. Daniel.G |
mleskanic Regular user 152 Posts |
Yeah I agree. I'm not sure whether or not I like it or not. I have used it on norm neilsen's and it really helps, but I haven't put it on my bee decks for a couple months and I use my bee decks every day constantly and they don't stick.
Matt Leskanic
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Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
I use fanning powder with the cards I use for producing fans and singles. I prefer the tried and true paper bag method for applying the powder. Drop the cards in the bag, apply a few shakes of fanning powder (I'm assuming the can of powder has openings like a box of salt ). Close up the bag and shake vigorously. After shaking, remove the cards and riffle or faro shuffle them a few times to distribute the powder more evenly.
I used to use the method advocated by Lewis Ganson in _Card Magic by Manipulation_ and _Routined Manipulation Finale_, which meant applying the powder to the cards one at a time, front and back. That takes a lot longer, and now I use that method only for exhibition card fans, not for production from the BP and not for spring flourishes, pressure fans, armspreads and the like. As I explained years ago on my out of print video on card manipulation, the powder is not supposed to make the cards slippery. It actually makes them (at least a deck fresh out of the wrapper) less slippery so that the cards fan more evenly. For the exhibition card fans I prefer applying wax from a cheap emergency wax candle. Before dealers started selling cards like the Nielsen and Murphy manipulation cards, I used to strip the backs off the cards as described by Ganson in his book. That skill also came in handy making double face cards and for other purposes. In some ways I think the split cards were better than the commercially produced cards, but I've gotten lazier over the years... ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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DanielCoyne Special user Western Massachussetts 544 Posts |
Thanks Anatole. How often do you re-apply it?
-Daniel |
Anatole Inner circle 1912 Posts |
The cards treated with fanning powder can usually be used for 3-4 shows before reapplying powder. But keep in mind that I only use those cards for spring flourishes in my act and I never use them for "pick a card" tricks. See the routine with fanning powder-treated cards at
http://users.erols.com/parmenides/Magic/flourishes.mov The cards treated with wax require a little more care. I end my fanning deck with a cascade that mixes them up pretty much, but after the show I resort them into red and black. Usually if I fan the fanning deck, it will break at any cards that need a touchup of wax. It's most often the cards that were at the top and bottom of the deck that "break" in the fan, and often only those two cards require a touch up. This routine can be viewed at http://users.erols.com/parmenides/Magic/exhibitionfans.mov Note: The opening one-hand fan in this video can be done with cards treated with either fanning powder or wax, but because the Zinab fanning deck is shown blank on _both sides_ before becoming a "standard" fanning deck, it requires more care in making the initial fan, and the wax provides the required assurance that the fan will be near perfect. Extra tip: For both routines (spring flourishes and exhibition card fans) I add about 6-8 cards to the original 52 to enhance the fans as well as the spring flourishes (and especially the arm spreads). ----- Amado "Sonny" Narvaez
----- Sonny Narvaez
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DanielCoyne Special user Western Massachussetts 544 Posts |
Beautiful videos -- thanks for sharing those!
-Daniel |
kendavis Regular user 182 Posts |
Glad to see that someone else uses fanning powder. I have been using it for years. I was criticized on another forum for suggesting its use. More than one person said "no real magician would use fanning powder."
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Darkwing Inner circle Nashville Tn 1850 Posts |
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On 2009-03-10 20:55, kendavis wrote: Gosh, I guess I'm not a real magician after all. Better refund all that money for all those paying gigs. I sure would hate to be accused of false advertising. Who cares if they were entertained. Some even ask me to come back. |
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