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jondark445 Special user 716 Posts |
Does anyone recall the upshot of the unicorns that Ringling Bros. had many years ago. Were these goats with horns tied to their heads?
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KyleTyler New user 35 Posts |
Maybe they were real, but people stopped believing in them so they disappeared.
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Todd Robbins V.I.P. New York 2922 Posts |
They were goats that had been raised with their horns bound together so the two horns fused into a single horn. They also did a bit of grooming on them to make them look a bit less goat-like. I think that the whole hern is now dead. James Taylor has a taxidermied one on display at the Palace of Wonders in Washington, DC.
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Freak Prodigy Inner circle NYC & LA 1805 Posts |
What Todd said.
The goat that James owns was previously owned by Ward Hall and before then Jeffrey Segel owner of the Arizona and Carolina Renaissance fairs.
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thegreatnippulini Inner circle of Hell because I've made 2582 Posts |
I worked with the Jack Constantine sideshow a while back, he had a few goats. One of them he billed as a five legged sheep. We (me and Heather) took care of the babies with some dehydrated goats milk we got at an organic store. As we're tending to the young goats/lambs, we noticed the mother kind of "supervising" the situation. We got a nice close up view of the "fifth" leg, which turned out to be simply a portion of wool under her neck that had been sculpted into the shape of a leg.
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airship Inner circle In my day, I have driven 1594 Posts |
Interesting, Todd. I had heard that they were goats that had been bred for many generations with horns that got closer and closer together, until they finally only had a single horn. I liked that story, but you're the biz insider so I certainly bow to your explanation.
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petekoloz Elite user 479 Posts |
Here is a link to an interview with the creator:
http://www.sideshowworld.com/interview-OZ.html Quote:
On 2009-03-02 14:47, jondark445 wrote: |
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Rotten Special user 829 Posts |
I saw the thing live with Ringling. I was not happy that they had billed the whole show around it cause it didn't impress me back then. Now that I know how it was done I'm much more impressed. I assumed it was a surgical transfer.
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thegreatnippulini Inner circle of Hell because I've made 2582 Posts |
*throwing a wrench in the works*
Aren't unicorns supposed to be horses, not goats?
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Todd Robbins V.I.P. New York 2922 Posts |
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On 2009-03-03 11:53, airship wrote: I don't know the exact g on the joint for getting a one horned goat. That binding/breeding makes sense. I majored in animal husbandry until I got caught. I hope to live to be as old as that joke. Todd |
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Nolaa New user Boston 6 Posts |
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On 2009-03-03 12:50, thegreatnippulini wrote: Actually, neither. Unicorns are supposed to be their own type of creature. Horse like, but not a horse. A lot of depictions show them with long tails with a tuft at the end, like a lion, and some sort of beard, like a goat. As with lots of mythological creatures, little of column A, little of B, little of C, etc. The use of a goat is brilliant though. How interesting. |
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jondark445 Special user 716 Posts |
Wow.....who knew such a horny topic would attract such interest....I should have set up a ticket booth and collected money....
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thegreatnippulini Inner circle of Hell because I've made 2582 Posts |
Yes... yes it is.
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dio da goat New user Boston 35 Posts |
Do you think PETA and other groups would jump down somebody's throat and rip out their intestines (idea for a new side show act?) if someone tried making unicorn goats today?
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Rotten Special user 829 Posts |
Ringling caught a bunch of flack from them back then. What was that? Early 80's?
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Rotten Special user 829 Posts |
I just got back from a late lunch with a friend who was with the show the second year they had the unicorns.
Kenneth Feld bought them from a man who showed them at ren fairs for a dollar to view. The horns were, as Todd said, bound together as a baby and they fused into one. It can be done with any goat. Some didn't always grow straight out but the ones they kept did. The second year with the unicorns was the highest grossing year Ringling had at the time. They had four goats. Because the Humane Society confiscated them three times the second year. (probably more the first) In Daytona, Atlanta and New York. Each time a person from Ringling would anonymously call the media to let them know about it to take advantage of the free press. The reason they were confiscated is because it is illegal to display animals that have been surgically altered. The Humane Society would x-ray the goats and then return them after finding out it was not surgical. Straight from the horses mouth. |
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dio da goat New user Boston 35 Posts |
Many of the breeders took it a step further, Rotten.
Instead of "binding the horns" they actually grafted a horn on the goat. Some did it with a mature horn from another animal (sometimes a bull) while in the more successful cases they grafted the animals own horn onto the center of the forehead so that it grew with the kid. Back then they ruled it a "simple procedure" and that all the animals were well treated (although I didn't read about Ringling specifically but the breeders themselves.) They perform much worse tests and experiments today, so I feel this would be minor in comparison. Did I mention I want one? |
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Todd Robbins V.I.P. New York 2922 Posts |
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On 2009-03-04 16:12, Rotten wrote: That is the reason Has Klok closed in Las Vegas. The Humane Society confiscated Pam Anderson as being a surgically altered dumb animal. |
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petekoloz Elite user 479 Posts |
Geez,if you guys would just read the links I put up...
they'd have found a link to the patent for the Unicorn surgery: http://colitz.com/site/4429685/4429685.htm Quote:
On 2009-03-03 14:41, Todd Robbins wrote: |
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Freak Prodigy Inner circle NYC & LA 1805 Posts |
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On 2009-03-04 16:12, Rotten wrote: Jeff Seagel
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