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We already know a lot of people's opinions about the best Tenyo trick, but if there is a 'worst' Tenyo trick, what do you think it would be?

Perhaps it is useful to split this question up into two categories:
1/ What is the worst Tenyo trick in your opinion when you just opend the package and read the manual, as in 'I knew that!'.
2/ What trick, that perhaps is very ingenious, would you NEVER perform in a performance in a restaurant or for fellow magicians? The ‘principle’ is too obvious for people who know a bit of magic or the principle is OK but it makes a lot of noise, … . There are A LOT of tricks in this category I think, I would say please mention the one that are ‘on top’ of this category Smile

Here are the tricks that I nominate for both categories.

1/
MONEY CUTTER: a very obvious trick; even for ‘laymen’.
MAGICIAN’S FINGER: very obvious
LANCELOT: a little less obvious, nonetheless handling the trick makes the secret obvious (imho)

2/ among many others, these are the first that come up to my mind:
VANISHING POINT: The moment I saw this trick I knew how it was done. It is VERY obvious imho.
MONEY SHREDDER: Excellent trick, but it fails sometimes! Perhaps someone can give advice to make the trick work every time (with Euro bills if possible)?
FUTURE CLOCK: Am I the only one who thinks it makes too much noise?
CRYSTAL PYRAMID: An amazing trick, but it makes too much noise … .
FLOATING LADY: a rare, excellent trick, but very easy to figure out how it is done.
TRIO CIGARETTE: one of the three tricks is very obvious.

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I don't think money cutter is obvious at all and think it is great (This is the one with the playing card right?)
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There is no playing card envolved as far as I know. Here's a demo of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxg9kkLthY
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1) + 2)
CREDIT SURPRISE - come on, a plastic blade should harm a credit card? Nice optical idea, nonetheless...
CUTTING EDGE - Sooo obvious and cheaply made, it's a shame...
CLEAN CUT - Maybe it fooled kids 20 years ago but nowadays every 6-year old figures out what's going on.

So far my first thoughts.
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Oh ok I thought it was the one where you cut a bill with a playing card.
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On 2009-04-08 12:56, nicolino wrote:
CREDIT SURPRISE - ...
CUTTING EDGE - ...
CLEAN CUT - ...


I did not buy the first two tricks that you mention because they are indeed obvious, even for 'laymen' Smile, so I totally agree with you Smile
I did buy the last trick (clean cut) however and I do not 100% agree that it is easily fugred out by most people, at least not in my experience. I think that most people who are interested in Magic know how it is done, however my(!) experience is that, as strange as it may seem to us, most people are NOT interested in magic whatsoever. Therefore a lot of people don't know what is happening when I perform the trick and are (most of the time that is)- blown away Smile
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On 2009-04-08 07:11, Killertweety wrote:
There is no playing card envolved as far as I know. Here's a demo of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pxg9kkLthY

I definitely have to agree on this being VERY OBVIOUS. Too bad as most Tenyo are ingenious methods.
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"Mystery Poodle" $40 bucks for this! (ebay sells for $22)
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I've never performed Vanishing Point, and probably never will. All the others I have are good.
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Hey Nicolino, just an idea about credit suprise that I have used, you can use a small pocket knife or razor blade and run it accros the jagged cutting line(makes the same noise) and replaces the plastic saw for the real thing. Tenyo obviously can't sell the trick with a real blade, but it can be substituted for the real thing.

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Depends on how it's executed.
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I can never get Money Shredder to work either. Any tips would be useful.
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On 2009-06-18 06:27, Angelo M Carbone wrote:
I can never get Money Shredder to work either. Any tips would be useful.

Second this! It´s a shame as I love the thinking behind it.
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On 2009-06-08 16:08, Peter Loughran wrote:
Hey Nicolino, just an idea about credit suprise that I have used, you can use a small pocket knife or razor blade and run it accros the jagged cutting line(makes the same noise) and replaces the plastic saw for the real thing. Tenyo obviously can't sell the trick with a real blade, but it can be substituted for the real thing.

Best,

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Peter,
thanks for your advice, will try if it creates more illusion this way...
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On 2009-06-19 14:53, nicolino wrote:
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On 2009-06-18 06:27, Angelo M Carbone wrote:
I can never get Money Shredder to work either. Any tips would be useful.

Second this! It´s a shame as I love the thinking behind it.


I had a problem with the string not cutting the paper well. the paper would bunch accordion fashion and make a mess. now I fold the paper lengthwise and make a SHARP crease, fold it the other direction and crease again along the same line. just to be sure, I also make a slight beginning tear at the bottom end. with this preparation it seems to work reliably.

prepare the paper ahead of time. during performance crease the bill (it is not necessary to make a sharp crease because you do not intend to tear it, but it appears to the speccys that one is serious about it).

one of the assembly members got the effect after I showed this and (at last report) has not had any trouble performing it.
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Excalibur t-122

this conversion of a row of slugs into a row of coins looks workable. but it has never once come close to functioning. the sword that is supposed to motivate the slugs skates right across their smooth surfaces. the coins aways jam and refuse to come out of hiding.

there must be a prototype that works. I wonder what could have happened to the production model. should I try sanding down the coins? is there somewhere I could get teflon powder to add?

I may never know.
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1) I'll put money shredder in the 1st group.
I do not own the trick but I suppose to a layman like me, it looks as if the string was brought in front of the bill but behind the paper, because of the way it was brought into the center from the side. So I didn't felt that there was any magic at all?

2) I'll second Crystal Pyramid due to the noise. I like mini-morphosis a lot, but there is also the problem with the noise. Was wondering if the noise was only inherent in the final production piece or was it apparent in the prototype as well?

Anyone tried doing any modifications or DIY improvements and care to share?
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My Crystal Pyramid doesn't make much noise... it hardly makes any noise actually... BUT... erm... when I bought it (it was like 3 years ago) I didn't know that it was a Tenyo trick and mine was not made by Tenyo. So it doesn't make any noise but you can see that something is wrong on the pyramid stand, the "lines" can be seen if you pay a little attention.

For me it's one of the best ideas ever; like a famous French magician once said "the explanation is nearly better than the effect". But that's just his opinion... and mine also ok... Smile
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Does anyone own a smooth working version of WONDER WINDOW? I have had several Wonder Windows (4 to be exact) and not one worked as it should.

This one goes with 'Excalibur', two tricks from Tenyo that just do not work as far as I know ... Smile
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On 2009-12-19 11:21, Killertweety wrote:
Does anyone own a smooth working version of WONDER WINDOW? I have had several Wonder Windows (4 to be exact) and not one worked as it should.

This one goes with 'Excalibur', two tricks from Tenyo that just do not work as far as I know ... Smile


I agree with you Killertweety my Excalibur and Wonder Window has never work!!! I will appreciate any tips to make them work smooth.
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