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Daren
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So I have a mem deck and I would like someone to name any card out of 52. Say they name the jack of clubs (33) in aroson stack and I want to code to a friend of mine who is in on the trick the number 33. I have thought of a number of methods, by saying to the stooge you can name any number between 1-52 for eg 44 or 11 etc. As I say these two numbers the stooge takes one from the other and names 33. Is this a new method or are there any other methods out there to code a 2 digit number?
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That's a VERY good way of coding. But, as a non-mem deck user - I don't know if its original or not.

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How about making friends with someone who also knows the Aronson stack? Then he would know what to say immediately, instead of relying on hints that may get very difficult to interpret for him? What will you do if a spectator says the Jack of Spades or King or Five of Clubs?

I think that a card at any number is a waste of the Open Index principle. It does suggest order of some kind because a specific numbered location is involved. And counting down to 33 is boring. It is! (You could go with spelling instead which makes for much shorter passages.)

Or better yet an effect like Two Beginnings. A spectator names a card and then another spectator touches any card freely, which turns out to be the card just mentioned. You don't need a stooge, the spectators are getting to do magic themselves and it can for instance suggest a magic connection between them or whatever new age esoteric energy cra... er... stuff that fits. Smile

It's the perfect card trick!
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Well for 1, 2 or 3 I can say the same thing. Name a number between 1 and 52. For example 34, 36, that would code number 2 and so on. Not sure if this would work or not but just an idea I suppose
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Dear Noobini
where is Two beginnings from?
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Let your friend be the star. You name the number.

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D: So I saw this car for sale and here's the [make, model, color, year, condition, mileage]. Do you think x$ sounds reasonable?
P: What's the hair color of the seller?
D: Um, light brown.
P: Ah, much better. I'm afraid I can't help you 'cause I don't know anything about cars.

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Noobini- Whatever the merits of an ACAAN trick, it's probably easier (and better) to find a stranger who can do subtraction, than bring along a friend who has memorized your stack. Probably.

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Daren: I'd be surprised if that method has not already appeared in print. One night I had come with something similar, though probably not as good: the confederate is instructed to subtract twelve from my example number. "Choose any number between 1-52, which means you can't pick 60, for example." (If you wanted 48). With either method, I think what's more important is how you choose to present it. If you can use committees for the selection of both card and number (your stooge would engineer the latter, probably by restricting spectators to mental dice rolls), then everyone can be a star.
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Two Beginnings can be found in Simon Aronson's book Try The Impossible (p.171), and also in volume 3 of his DVD series Sessions With Simon.

Darwin Ortiz has a nearly identical effect called Test Your Luck, which I know was in his 2007/2008 "Ephemeral" lecture notes. Don't know if it has been published in any of his more easily available books or DVDs.
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On 2009-04-08 13:15, The Amazing Noobini wrote:

Darwin Ortiz has a nearly identical effect called Test Your Luck, which I know was in his 2007/2008 "Ephemeral" lecture notes. Don't know if it has been published in any of his more easily available books or DVDs.


Test Your Luck is one of my favourite mem deck effects. IMO it's a lot stronger than any CAAN or ACAAN effects.
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Why don't you just give him an index card he can look at when the card is chosen? Pattrick
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On 2009-04-08 09:15, Mike Powers wrote:
Let your friend be the star. You name the number.

Mike


Done this quite a lot at magic conventions... fun to see especially the youngsters following my friend and begging him to tell them how he did it Smile

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On 2009-04-08 08:18, The Amazing Noobini wrote:

I think that a card at any number is a waste of the Open Index principle. It does suggest order of some kind because a specific numbered location is involved. And counting down to 33 is boring. It is! (You could go with spelling instead which makes for much shorter passages.)



While ACAAN isn't my favorite effect with a mem deck, it's on the short list. You may be bored as a magician, but if your standard lay audience is bored, you've got some TOUGH crowds in Norway. H=Magician totally hands off, spectator dealing cards face up, audience counting...the chosen card isn't seen through 5, then 10, then 20, then 30 selections...31...32... If the performer is conscious and the audience didn't break into the Thorazine, that shouldn't be boredom; that should be heightened anticipation.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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You might try using the card case as a cueing device. Divide the table into five areas and where you set the case down cues the first digit.

The case itself cues the second number with a face up case pointing to a five point "clock" face for numbers 0 through four and a face down case numbers 5 through nine.
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Use a one way deck. Have your stooge name the card. Then anyone can name the number. Your stooge will be fooled too since s/he won't know how the card was at the proper number.

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On a public forum you admit you are prepared to use stooges!

What will the public think?
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I teach a list of "card words," based on the Phonetic Alphabet, in all my books in which I teach how to remember cards. Whenever I'd be with Dai Vernon, even into his nineties, he'd always say, "Harry, do that **** impossible trick you do." I'd know what he meant. I'd ribbon spread the face-down, shuffled, deck and tell the spec. to pull out and remember any card. Vernon would make sure to see the card. Card returned, deck shuffled. Dai would make one remark and code the card to me. He was great at it. If he'd say, "There's no way in '****' he can know that card," I'd know it was the 5H. Or, laughingly, "I'll give you a 'dime' if you can name that card." (3D). HL.
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On 2009-04-10 10:24, Harry Lorayne wrote:
I teach a list of "card words," based on the Phonetic Alphabet, in all my books in which I teach how to remember cards. Whenever I'd be with Dai Vernon, even into his nineties, he'd always say, "Harry, do that **** impossible trick you do." I'd know what he meant. I'd ribbon spread the face-down, shuffled, deck and tell the spec. to pull out and remember any card. Vernon would make sure to see the card. Card returned, deck shuffled. Dai would make one remark and code the card to me. He was great at it. If he'd say, "There's no way in '****' he can know that card," I'd know it was the 5H. Or, laughingly, "I'll give you a 'dime' if you can name that card." (3D). HL.

That's a really cool story, thanks Smile
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Tommy is right. This discussion really belongs in Secret Sessions out of public view. We are discussion methods etc.

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On 2009-04-10 10:24, Harry Lorayne wrote:
I teach a list of "card words," based on the Phonetic Alphabet, in all my books in which I teach how to remember cards. Whenever I'd be with Dai Vernon, even into his nineties, he'd always say, "Harry, do that **** impossible trick you do." I'd know what he meant. I'd ribbon spread the face-down, shuffled, deck and tell the spec. to pull out and remember any card. Vernon would make sure to see the card. Card returned, deck shuffled. Dai would make one remark and code the card to me. He was great at it. If he'd say, "There's no way in '****' he can know that card," I'd know it was the 5H. Or, laughingly, "I'll give you a 'dime' if you can name that card." (3D). HL.


Vernon talked about that on the Revelations Videos. Remember the "Joker" bit?

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MAke up your own memory code I can say one word and my friend knows the card immediately.

You can use all types of methods, I can't release this I'm putting out this method soon. Easy memory method.

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