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Tim Trono Inner circle 1114 Posts |
Yes Harry's Ultra Move is a great idea (Harry which DVD of yours do you recommend for this?)
I'll have to check out Krenzel's One Card Double Lift. It accomplishes the idea as outlined? Thanks guys and keep the great ideas coming. Tim |
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
If you want to put one card on the selection which is on top, how about this?
Specator cut at any place and you put cut portion under the lower half. Do Double Lift and show the second card as the selection. You don't need any more sleight. Maybe this is not suitable for your context of the trick. So, we can't recomend the best method without knowing what you want to do before and after putting the selection second from top. Hideo Kato |
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jstone Inner circle Someday I'll have 1473 Posts |
If the card isn't signed, how 'bout a dup? One on top and one second from the top.
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Lawrence O Inner circle French Riviera 6811 Posts |
Use the Williamson signature gage to gain a double signature card.
Have two similar cards on top the one with the coiled lettraset being the second one. Have the spectator signing the card. Do a top change as for letting the ink dry. Take teh "signature off the card and put it (the lettraset film) in your pocket and ask him to "place back" his signature on the card. Dry it again and put it on the deck. Now you have two duplicate signed card, one of them being second from the top, and the spectator is aware of only one. This is a nice way to use a gag as misdirection for a method and David Williamson's gags are not the worst ones we can find to devise a method. Now if you care slightly crimping the top card as you dry it (the easiest thing you can do) you will not even loose it when you place it anywhere in the deck.
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Michael T Veteran user 321 Posts |
Have a card palmed in your right hand from the beginning and secretly replace it on the deck.
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MueCard Inner circle 2964 Posts |
Please note regarding the Ultra Move:
See also Professor Hoffmann: Modern Magic [1876] Dover Publ. Inc. 1978, p. 31 “To ‘Change’ A Card (Filer la Carte) – Fourth Method (With one hand only)” . That description is a translation of the Posin’s ‘Nouvelle Magie Blanche Dévoilèe’ (1853). Robert-Houdin “The Secrets of Conjuring and Magic” translation by Professor Hoffmann London, 1878 of Robert-Houdin’s “Les Secrets de la Prestidigitation et de la Magie” of 1868, see pp. 186 – 187 “To Change A Card With One Hand”. There you can read (!): “This is an extremely elegant piece of manipulation; but must be considered rather as a flourish than as of practical utility. However skilfully it is executed, it is impossible to disguise the operation. For this reason, conjurors, so far from affecting to make any mystery about it, rather draw attention to their elegant execution of the movement.” |
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estragon22 New user Ireland 81 Posts |
Derren Brown's velvet turnover found in Pure Effect.
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Tim I have two that I use all the time the 'gun change'
and the godfathers'' turn over' I will send you a demo vinny |
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disgruntledpuffin Special user i have nothing to say about my 521 Posts |
In kostya Kimlats lecture notes "Card Work, Card Play" there is a variation of a Ken Krenzel switch that would accomplish this, given the right context.
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Steven Youell V.I.P. 3866 Posts |
The Marlo Deliberate Steal is perfect. Hand just looks like it's squaring the deck. No sweeping movements at all. It just looks like you're squaring the deck for a second.
Why wouldn't you use that? SEY |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Hi Tim: I believe I perform/teach my Ultra Move on volume 4 of the "Best Ever" DVD set. (I emailed you personally about something else yesterday - awaiting your reply.) Best - HARRY L.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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Vernest Regular user 169 Posts |
I remember talking to Jim Pace about a move he was doing a few years back. I remember it's a Marlo but I'm not sure in what book or what name. The basic idea is that as you put the card into the deck (pivoting between the right hand's thumb and index as you showed it to the audience), the left fingers make the top card lift up from the left side. You are going to insert the selection card under the top card from this opening and immediately let the top card fall.
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gadfly3d Special user 963 Posts |
Why not steal the bottom card into the palm and replace it on the top?
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Tim Trono Inner circle 1114 Posts |
Steven, do you know where I can find Marlo's Deliberate Steal. I think I have seen this before and it is quite good.
Harry, I did not get your e-mail and checked my spam folder - can you resend? Thanks guys this is REALLY helpful. I appreciate all of the great ideas! Tim |
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
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On 2009-04-23 05:00, Mike Throxenby wrote: That's what I was thinking.
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Steven Youell V.I.P. 3866 Posts |
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On 2009-04-23 17:25, Tim Trono wrote: Tim-- the best place is Paul Cummins' DVD. There is not a better resource available on that side steal. Period. SEY |
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Steven Youell V.I.P. 3866 Posts |
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On 2009-04-23 05:00, Mike Throxenby wrote: Mike-- If I may offer an opposing opinion here-- I don't think that's a good idea. I'm not a fan of holding out in the first place. Additionally, since the audience is supposed to know the card is on top, it makes an invisible replacement problematic. Better to do a side steal or something else to reduce the time. SEY |
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Vernest Regular user 169 Posts |
I think that the side steal will give you "a beat" that I personally wouldn't like. The side steal DVD by Paul Cummins will show you the move, but even though Paul does it well you still have "a moment" where the squaring of the deck (only in the context of placing the card on top of the deck) would be weird to do. I mean...who squares the deck when you just put the card on top?
I was watching a play last night and though about this problem of yours. Why don't you turn the top card face up, push a double, lateral steal the second card and add it on top of the deck as you turn the face up card on top of the deck? Quick, smooth, but has a small angle problem on the left side.... |
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chronica Loyal user France 94 Vitry s/s 246 Posts |
You take the deck out of the box and secretly drop the bottom card on your lap (with or without palming it before); then begin your routine as you want.
You show your hands empty. You let the spectator check himself the top card while you do the imp-pass, you then move the deck a little with the right hand (holdind now the card in tenkai palm or similar) while removing some imaginary dust with the left one or give something to the spectator- a pen to sign or whatever- and the dirty work is done. |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Tim: I'll copy/paste my original email to you now (today - Friday, April 24th. Please let me know that you received it. Best - HL.
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