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David Duffy
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I am curious because we all know when you purchase a fresh bicycle deck it spreads and fans so easily. Why when you work a deck in for even a day or two do your fans get choppy and fan in stacks? I know my skills are decent to the point if I have a new deck I can make an evenly spread fan.
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Dirty hands are the biggest culprits. Grease and oils from your hands are transferred to the deck and grab dirt, grit and gunka which ruins the slick finish of your new deck.
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Steve nailed the main culprit, grease and grime!
A deck doesn't last me very long but I always wash my hands before handling and when I'm done I most often faro face up into face down and put them in a Porper clip. That seems to keep em fresh a bit longer! Another card killer is humidity!
I buy 12 packs of Bikes at Costco for 13 bucks so at that price I don't worry about getting more than a couple days out of a deck!

Hospitals, nursing homes and rehab centers are always happy to receive a donation of a couple doz. almost new cards every other month or so! Hell, after you get to know the staff maybe work out a deal to do a little for fun and for free gig to hone your chops!

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David Duffy
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Thanks so much for the feedback. I've noticed myself when I use an alcohol based cleaner on my hands I can handle the deck without much hassle. Perhaps I should have put two and two together. Does the fanning powder sound like a good solution or does this just fix the dirt and grime issue for a short time?
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Nah, in my opinion fanningpowder makes the deck even more clumpy and sticky;)
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Don't know anything about fanning powder but I do know that alcohol dries out your hands! I sometimes use the washless type hand cleaners like Purel but I then follow up with a dab of Neutrogena hand cream, work it in well then wait a min. or so for it to set in before picking up my cards!

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http://www.madehow.com/Volume-4/Playing-Cards.html
The above link will explain the manufacturing process that playing cards undergo.

If you look at step 4 in the Manufacturing process you will find out that the cards are given a clear polymer coating to give them a slick, glossy finish and make them longerlasting.

But nothing lasts forever and I assume that this coating wears away after repeated shuffling, fanning, etc.

One thing I do notice... the more you faro/riffle shuffle a deck of cards the quicker the coating wears away.

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On 2009-05-01 01:29, Jell92 wrote:
Nah, in my opinion fanningpowder makes the deck even more clumpy and sticky;)


If that is the case you are either no using good powder or applying it incorrectly. That said a deck with fanning powder does not feel slick like a new deck but will fan more evenly.

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Yeh maybe clumsy and sticky is not the right words to use, but they do get strange feeling to them, that I dislike!;)
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"What makes a deck easy to fan?"

I would have to answer your skill more than anything else. With a Pressure Fan at least, you should be able to fan a deck which is a week or two old without much noticeable unevenness.

I'm still having unpredictable results with my Pressure Fan, but when I get it right it produces a nice even fan which should look good to the uninitiated.

I think that if you were to shoot a professional DVD on XCM or something, you would want to take additional steps to ensure the smoothest fan possible, but the first of those steps would be to open a fresh deck anyway. Smile
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You know, it's funny, though...

A new deck fans great. A slightly broken in deck fans less great - especially if only a few cards have gotten dirty. But, a really broken in deck often fans REALLY GREAT. It's as if having the right amount and type of dirt across all the cards uniformly acts as fanning powder and helps things along.
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What makes a deck easy to fan? Using Jeff McBride's hands.
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What makes a deck easy to fan?

Practice man, practice.........
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On 2009-05-04 15:59, The Amazing Noobini wrote:
"What makes a deck easy to fan?"

I would have to answer your skill more than anything else. With a Pressure Fan at least, you should be able to fan a deck which is a week or two old without much noticeable unevenness.

I'm still having unpredictable results with my Pressure Fan, but when I get it right it produces a nice even fan which should look good to the uninitiated.

I think that if you were to shoot a professional DVD on XCM or something, you would want to take additional steps to ensure the smoothest fan possible, but the first of those steps would be to open a fresh deck anyway. Smile

I have never developed a decent pressure fan. I guess I got lazy when USPCC started using the slick finish they currently use, and I was suddenly able to fan cards beautifully without pressure. "Like the spokes of a wheel..."
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Strong hands and practice. And keep you tools (the cards) clean.
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Fanning powder indeed helps fans, but makes a lot of sleights more difficult. It doesn't make the cards more slippery, it only distributes the friction more evenly amongst the cards.
http://www.youtube.com/jonashaglund < Card flourishes and some other stuff.
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