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I bring this up because my opinion is that a headset will work in nearly every venue, and if you have one, you will rarely ever need to use your own PA system.
Not only will the sound be superior to your own PA, your setup time and takedown time will be reduced by 2 hrs. per gig. If you're paid $600 per gig, for example, you just increased your fee from $600 for 3 hrs ($200/hr) to $600 per hr.

If you think 2 hrs. is an exaggeration for setup/takedown consider how long it takes you to make sure it's all accounted for, pack it all up into your car, unpack it from your car, set it up, sound check, tear it down, make sure you have it all, pack it into your car, unpack it from your car, and put it away at home.

An earset will not buy you this time savings. In 5 of my last 6 shows, the speakers were pointed directly at me. Big huge DJ speakers that sounded great. Not a chance an earset would work in those situations. Or very little chance.

Ask yourself if you REALLY need an earset. I'll bet you don't.

Headsets are MUCH louder, much less chance of feedback, the sound is as good or better, they are far cheaper, and can work in almost all situations, regardless of speaker placement.

Earset speakers require that you be behind the speakers so that you don't get feedback. The speakers should be out toward the audience. How often do you have that going for you? When it's someone else's PA, the answer is rarely!!!!!

Yes, there's a big difference, Mike.
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Is the following a cardiod style mic?: http://affordableproaudio.com/
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The APA-09 is a back electret element, omni-directional microphone. It features

Nope! omni means NO! uni would be YES!
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Thanks for your support.
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Hey Frank,
How are you liking that Sound Commander?
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I love the sound commander but my pc is being repaired and I can't use it until it comes back from the factory. had a bad power supply.
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Would this Headset mic be no good then http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V......25769762 ?

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I wouldn't get it because it's a earset/omni which, to me, is a difficult combination and an impossible combination when you're using someone else's setup.

cheap. interesting. I'd skip it.
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Thanks for the advice. Is there anything you can recomend that is a similar style but not much more expensive. I don't have a lot to spend but want something that will sound ok which is the same
sort of look and how it goes on your head.

Thanks, Glenn
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I used to feel the same way and decided not to care anymore. if you think you'll look silly or your headset will be distracting, etc. it's not true. As soon as you put it on it's invisible, except perhaps in photos. Nobody cares, nobody will remember, and everyone is used to seeing a headset.

On the other hand, Countryman makes an e6i which I believe is unidirectional and also an earset. That's probably the best that I can think of but I am no expert on it and don't know how it would work with big huge speakers and a subwoofer pointing directly at you (which is not uncommon I'm finding).

I've learned to adapt to what is commonly found at the gigs I perform at.
And learning to adapt has saved me countless hours in just this season alone.

As I stated before, I got a headset "just in case" because I knew it had superior sound quality and was VERY resistant to feedback. Now it's all I use.
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I really hate the look of the large headsets, with passion. I couldn't use it and my first show being at my Uni I know I wouldn't get away with it, I asked my friends what they thought they looked like, all said stupid.
Just my personal opinion.

I will prob have to buy that eBay one. I can't afford any others.

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That's what you get when you ask your friends Smile
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To repeat a much earlier post from this thread (by me:
I look at it this way. (Both of these scenarios assume efficient use of the overall PA system in a variety of rooms.)
- If you use an earset (tiny headset), your mic will be almost invisible to some of the audience most of the time (depending on the audience size), and there will be times when you have feedback , and there will be times when you cannot be heard at the back of the room.
- If you use a full-size headset, some of your audience will be distracted by seeing the headset, but they see them every day on singers (the better your "entertainment factor", the less likely they are to notice the mic). You are extremely unlikely to experience feedback with a full-size headset, and, as long as your speakers are powerful enough, you'll be heard at the back of the room.
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On 2009-07-09 14:40, gh256 wrote:
I really hate the look of the large headsets, with passion. I couldn't use it and my first show being at my Uni I know I wouldn't get away with it, I asked my friends what they thought they looked like, all said stupid.
Just my personal opinion.

I will prob have to buy that eBay one. I can't afford any others.

Glenn

I know what you are talking about. When I first saw a singer wearing a headset years ago, it got my attention. Entertainers have been using them so often, now the world is use to headsets. Picture how the first person began singing holding a hand held mic. I bet it got a lot of attention. Later, the world became use to it because they were used commonly. The same things with the headsets.

To be honest, if the audience is distracted by a headset mic throughout a magic show, that means the magician is not performing like he should be.
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It's just I'd think I'd look funny and may be more self concious I would get used to a larger one I guess, I doubt the audience would be distracted, I hope my show will be better than that lol.
Thing is all headsets I have seen, even the larger size ones are to expensive for me.
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The sooner you get one and use it the sooner you'll get over it.
honestly, they're popular for a reason.
the payoff is huge with very little in drawbacks, if there are any at all.
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Interesting thread. I just found this and thought I'd throw out a couple of thoughts. Over the years I used a variety of around the head, behind the ear wireless mics, countryman, etc. It was Ken Weber who turned my thinking around on this. I decided to take his advice in Maximum Entertainment and use a hand held mic and I've never looked back. I've sold off all my other mics and now just use two hand held mics in my act. Both mics are Shure, one is wired and the other is a hand held wireless mic. I use the wired mic on stage and wireless goes into the audience. I do mentalism and have people in the audience respond when I'm doing my Q&A segment.

When you talk about sound quality, the quality of your voice and control, you cannot beat a hand held mic. It takes a bit of practice to learn proper mic technique, but it's worth it.

Another comment is that you should ALWAYS have a wired hand held mic as a backup and know how to use it.

There is not right or wrong way. It always comes down to personal preference. While I got a lot out of Maximum Entertainment, his tip on the mics has made the biggest impact on my show.
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I don't disagree with this. I'm currently too lazy to put in the time to make sure my show is as good with a hand-held as it is without.
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On 2009-07-27 02:15, Frank Starsini wrote:
I'm currently too lazy to put in the time to make sure my show is as good with a hand-held as it is without.


Hey, Frank, that's a refreshing bit of honesty!

At the last PEA conference I did a lecture on mic technique; my contention is that virtually any magic or mentalism act can be blocked so that you can use a hand-held mic. It does require a bit of thought and work, but as Ted Squires wrote above, the advantages are many -- once you learn some basic techniques.

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Sad but True, Ken.
But I would gladly attend and pay for a lecture on hand-held mic technique.

I just did another show last Friday for 250-300 and again, I told them to have a PA setup for me. All I brought was my battery-operated wireless headset microphone and had it set up and tested within 5 minutes. The sound was incredible and covered the outdoor theater in a way that no PA that I would ever own could. Once again, I didn't need my PA at all.

At this point, I have not needed my PA since..... I can't remember.
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