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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2009-05-06 18:38, Greg Arce wrote: It was actually, "How long have you been staying at your friend's house?"
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
We're a far more visually oriented society than anything conceivable back when Shakespeare was writing his pleasant afternoon diversions.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts |
Critter, what is a left handed cigarette??
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
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On 2009-05-06 21:24, kcg5 wrote: home-rolled wacky-backy
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2009-05-06 17:37, daffydoug wrote: You use two words for "squeet"? People used to use THREE words?!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
The English language of today is in ferment, as it was in the Elizabethan era. The word play, puns, internal rhyming and rhythm of today's best slam poetry are quite wonderful.
There were a lot of crummy writers in Shakespeare's day too.
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts |
Thanks Michael, ive never heard that.
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!
"History will be kind to me, as I intend to write it"- Sir Winston Churchill |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I ate Shakespeare, so some of him is in me.
But I've been playing around with Plato since I was a boy. Still, I can't think of a single pun in the Republic. Verbal puzzles? Not sure about that either. I'm sure they're all there, but my Greek is just too weak. It takes me about an hour to read a single page. I can't really call it reading, actually. It's more like "deciphering". So either Critter's Greek is MUCH better than mine, or he's been smoking some of those left-handed cigarettes. And Jonathan, there is indeed a lot of afternoon delight in A Midsummer Night's Dream. (And if I sound defensive, it's because I have an incredibly foul mouth, as those who know me from other forums can confirm. That side of me just doesn't get fully expressed here at the Café, for some reason.) |
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mvmagic Inner circle Has written 1322 Posts |
Oh what a joy this is:
Yes, I have been to several Shakespeare plays. Have read several as well. I have read Plato's Republic. And I have NOT seen "Dude, where's my car?" (But I have seen a ton of films just as intellectually challenging as "Dude" and enjoyed many of them so that proves nothing)
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I don't even know what "Dude, where's my car?" is.
Does that make me illiterate? |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
I think there are at least two interesting but separable questions here.
1. Is contemporary English in a state of decay, however this is defined? 2. Are contemporary English speakers aware of or do they value their intellectual inheritance? And these questions, however they are answered, can be followed with 3. Does it matter? And these are great questions. John
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Does it matter John, and to whom?
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
Sure, I'll take that sub-sub-question.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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airship Inner circle In my day, I have driven 1594 Posts |
"The short words are best, and the old words are the best of all." -Winston Churchill
'The central secret of conjuring is a manipulation of interest.' - Henry Hay
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kcg5 Inner circle who wants four fried chickens and a coke 1868 Posts |
Dilettante is my favorite word, in its negative connotation. It just rolls of the tongue.
Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!!!!!
"History will be kind to me, as I intend to write it"- Sir Winston Churchill |
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airship Inner circle In my day, I have driven 1594 Posts |
The Norman invasion gave us some wonderful words. It's great to speak a language where you can use the short, old Anglon-Saxon words for conversation and swearing, then break out the fancy French terms to appear elegant and well-educated.
'The central secret of conjuring is a manipulation of interest.' - Henry Hay
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
The kind they smoke in Amsterdam. A joint. Truthfully, I think they were using a pipe. I just like the term. My first Bio teacher used it all the time.
I have another quandary, how about the clever use of slang? I believe it exists. I enjoy Southern expressions like "Sweatin' like a *** in church." I also believe that Urban street slang is often used quite brilliantly in the more flowing styles of hip hop. Now, Eminem might not talk real good English like what I does, but I think he's got a good verbal style. As far as Shakespearian writings, I was using it as an idealised example. I know people didn't talk exactly like that but they still done talked better than what we does now. They ain't had no TV to kill theys attention spans with. Quote: On 2009-05-06 21:24, kcg5 wrote:
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
That would make sense if it had anything to do with what I am talking about. I am not talking about slang versus proper, I am talking about lazy versus eloquent.
Entirely different. I like slang. Quote: On 2009-05-06 17:12, Poveglia wrote:
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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hou_dini Regular user 103 Posts |
Language is a malleable and living thing which is constantly in flux and evolving. Shakespeare would not comprehend English as it is spoken today. It does not necessarily decay but continually change.
I love people who constantly seek to apply the rules set forth for the "King's" English to its American counterpart. The goal of language is to communicate. If you comprehend what is being spoken, then language has accomplished its purpose. |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
Critter, I don't want to push the point, but I'm still waiting for your list of puns and verbal puzzles in Plato's Republic.
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