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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Alan: I am not sure I get what you mean. Are you saying that the end of your illusion routine, the audience still sees a board under the person when the chair is removed?
Kyle
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5977 Posts |
Kyle,
In the Abbott's Chair Suspension, there one visible board and it is never removed from under the spectator - there's also no need for a cloth to wrap up the spectator. It's not like the Sommers or MAK models where a board is removed from under the spectator, after they're suspended. |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Aww ok. Now I recall what you are talking about. It is a good illusion but I personally never liked the fact that a board was always stll avisible to the audience. It still works, but becomes more of a balancing act to the audience and never felt like a greater illusion to me. I preferred it to really look like the helper was being suspended from the chair by thwe power of their neck and a little bit of magic and imagination. Now this is just me personally. I just always felt the removal of any board just really helps sell the illusion for an audience. It really does come down to what works best for you though. Thanks Alan for clearing that up for me.
Kyle
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kendavis Regular user 182 Posts |
I have used all three suspensions. No doubt Bill Smith's is the greatest. I borrowed one for a while after seeing Penn and Teller use it. I hated to give it up. The European is definitely the second best. You can hold an adult assistant (assuming she is of average weight-no heavies like me). It is made much better than the Mak. Some of the Mak boards have a tendency to drop a little if the person is not exactly balanced!
Great suggestion by Magic4u02. Never did it. Just borrowed a neighborhood teenager and tried it. He's right! It DOES look more realistic and the neighbor said that it was not uncomfortable. Thanks for the tip. |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
You are most welcome. My pleasure.
Kyle
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Sealegs Inner circle The UK, Portsmouth 2597 Posts |
So...which versions allow you to remove the board and which don't?
Neal.
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mumford Special user 652 Posts |
The Harbin suspension is the desogn that all removable board versions buit from.
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Kevinr Inner circle 1854 Posts |
They all move the board.
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MagicMichealMan Veteran user Vancouver Island, British Columbia 349 Posts |
I am going to order a european chair suspention from hocus pocus. It looks like its what I need. I can levitate a kid or adult and I really like the look of the whole thing.
magic mike |
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stephane_arnow Loyal user 283 Posts |
I have one from PARIS MAGIC ; really strong and safe.
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
The European version is not bad at all and yes you can use an adult with it. However, keep in mind it is still not as stong or stable as a Bill Smith Model. With this or any model, safety is still a number one priority as is checking all connections and knwoing how to properly place a helper onto it. Do not allow yourself to feel too relaxed just because you have a model version you feel is much stronger. No matter which you have, there are still rules and procedures you will want to learn, master and utilize at every performance.
Kyle
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stephane_arnow Loyal user 283 Posts |
PARIS MAGIC version : Strong and stable. Safe with adult from audiance member. I bought it 800 euros , 6 or 7 years ago
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MagicMichealMan Veteran user Vancouver Island, British Columbia 349 Posts |
I just got my european chair suspension today and I already love it, its sturdy, nice looking.
now all I need to do is purchase kyle peron's e-book. magic mike |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Mike: Congrats on your purchase. I know you will love performing this illusion. If I can be of any help to you at all, please just let me know. I would be happy to assist as you begin to work and rehearse with it.
Kyle
Kyle Peron
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MagicMichealMan Veteran user Vancouver Island, British Columbia 349 Posts |
Hey kyle,
thanks a bundle! I have had so many people tell me right away to get your e-book as you are the master at the chair suspension! great to know I can go to you for help! magic mike |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Thanks Mike. I guess I have a lot of people to thank for their referral. That means a lot. =) Please let me know how I can be of help.
Kyle
Kyle Peron
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
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On 2009-05-18 09:55, Kevinr wrote: The boards are not removed on all of them. Abbott's board is non-removable. |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
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On 2009-05-09 08:26, magic4u02 wrote: Let's not forget about Chair Suspension Professional. It is a strong and sturdy chair suspension required for adults and teenagers. The chairs have a lawn chair design to make the chairs look lighter. Instead of pulling the chair away first, the board is pulled away first. The chair is pulled away last. The photo shows how it looks after the board is removed: Click here to view attached image. |
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dahih beik Special user palestine 817 Posts |
There is a seviere bend downwards that doesn't happen in the bill smith version and the positioning is not correct .
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