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jhereg Regular user Petaluma California 121 Posts |
Yea. I'm going to give it a go. I'll post my results and experiences.
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Ocha Loyal user 225 Posts |
Well, My first coin ring didn't go quite as planned. I guess it came out "alright"
but it is a little bigger than my size and the face was marred up a little (I had the wrong hammer, it was a jewelers hammer and the head was too small). If you are going to do this I suggest when hammering it onto the mandrel start to flatten it out about 4 sizes smaller than your ring size because it expands (ring size) fairly quickly when you are trying to flatten it out from a cone to a band. Mine is still slightly coned but I'm ok with that. As the article says quality improves with experience so I'll just have to keep getting experience until I've perfected the method. I'll put up some pictures a little later when I get more batteries in my camera. Gerald
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jhereg Regular user Petaluma California 121 Posts |
All in all, I feel my first try was a success. I ended up with a piece of jewelry that can be worn with pride. Just not by me It ended up a size 14, I need about a 12 1/2. It sounds like Gerald and I had similar experiences. My ring is too big and still slightly coned as well. Still looks good though.
I used a raw hide hammer to form the ring but towards the end of the process the metal is so work hardened it is difficult to get beyond a certain point. The metal just doesn’t want to move anymore. I do have some experience with metal working. I took a metal arts class at my local junior college, where one of the techniques I learned was raising. That is how silver smiths of old would make things like tea pots, bowls, etc. Basically it is coaxing the metal into the shape you want. Not beating into shape. You anneal the metal so it is malleable and slowly work around it with a hammer to slowly nudge it into the shape you want. After you have gone around the whole piece it becomes work hardened and you anneal it again to go through the process all over again, and again, and again. Very time consuming but you can do amazing things. Without annealing I don’t see how something like a size 8 1/2 ring could be made out of a half dollar. Like this guy’s stuff. And for 35 dollars it is a steal considering the work involved. Here is my ring: Click here to view attached image. |
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Ocha Loyal user 225 Posts |
Wow, Yours did come out much better than my first attempt. I'll be trying again though, I'm not going to give up just yet. I believe the ring would flatten better if I Slightly bevel the milled edge (the edge that will be on the inside).
My ring came out to about a 12.5 and is about as coned as yours but due to starting with the wrong hammer I marked up the ring a lot more than intended. In fact my ring started to split at the edge where the small plastic head missed and the steel base that holds the plastic head on hit the coin. I'll be starting my next piece tomorrow. Your ring does look great though. Gerald
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Ocha Loyal user 225 Posts |
Jhereg even though that ring may be too large for your finger you should get a chain and wear it as a pendant.
It does look nice. Gerald
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jhereg Regular user Petaluma California 121 Posts |
Thanks. Just a little while ago I was wondering... Maybe somebody with big fingers might have an old hopping half set collecting dust in a drawer somewhere and would want to trade...
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Joshua Barrett Inner circle Cincinnati, Ohio 3631 Posts |
My wedding ring is a coin ring made from a barber. its much more durable then one might think
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Ocha and jhereg, how long did it take you guys to do this?
It seems that making a coin with writing on both sides seems easier and less time consuming, not to mention they look better overall IMHO. I know they say the other way of only having writing on the inside and smooth on the outside takes about 3hrs just to hammer it out. Overall, it seems that it is a much better deal to simply buy one that is perfectly made to begin with but I am impressed by you young adventurers as to your efforts here. I mean, just where would we be without explorers? -- Not very far. Good job guys! And Josh, nice idea that your wife gave you a coin ring, nothing else would be as appropriate my friend.
*Check out my latest: Gifts From The Old Country: A Mini-Magic Book, MBs Mini-Lecture on Coin Magic, The MB Tanspo PLUS, MB's Morgan, Copper Silver INC, Double Trouble, FlySki, Crimp Change - REDUX!, and other fine magic at gumroad.com/mb217magic
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Ocha Loyal user 225 Posts |
Mb, For me it took about a total of 2 - 2.5 hours of actually working on the coin. (about 3 1/2 hours going back and forth to the store for things I needed, Hammer, Drill bit, Beer....) I'll have a more accurate time line when I do my second one (been pushed back a few days).
Gerald
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
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On 2009-05-21 16:04, jhereg wrote: That's a nice first attempt. If I had the required tools in my possession, I could definitely see myself giving it a try- could get dangerous - but that's not the case, so I'm content to purchase one instead. |
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jhereg Regular user Petaluma California 121 Posts |
It was about 2 hours for me as well. I made one out of an English penny yesterday that took about three hours. Most of that time being playing around with technique and making tools and jigs to make things easier. Fortunately metal working/ jewelry making is already a hobby of mine, so I have a lot of what I need already. Unless you want to start a new hobby, buying one is definitely the way to go. Those guys have already worked the bugs out with many attempts, and have it down. If I could get the time to create a ring down to about an hour or so I could see it worth selling them. that's not really the goal here though, I'm just having fun.
I think the idea of being able to take your ring off "turn it back into a coin" do some coin magic with it, and when you are done "turn it back into a ring" and put it back on your finger is cool. |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
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On 2009-05-19 17:49, magicalaurie wrote: He sent me pics of my ring today. Exceptional customer service! http://www.libertycoinrings.com |
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jhereg Regular user Petaluma California 121 Posts |
That's awesome! What kind did you get?
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
I got him to make it from a Franklin half dollar, jhereg.
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Ocha Loyal user 225 Posts |
I completed my second ring, while it did come out great compared to my first one, it is still too large. It is a size 15+ but it looks good.
I just can't seem to get it to size right while trying to flatten it out. Since the ring grows so much in size while making it I've decided to try to make one with a quarter (maybe I'll end up with a ring I can actually wear). magicalaurie that ring is truly beautifull, I wish I could get mine to even come close to that!! I'm envious. Gerald
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
You can ocha, just buy it like she did. No work necessary and perfect everytime, no magic to it. Just buy and enjoy.
*Check out my latest: Gifts From The Old Country: A Mini-Magic Book, MBs Mini-Lecture on Coin Magic, The MB Tanspo PLUS, MB's Morgan, Copper Silver INC, Double Trouble, FlySki, Crimp Change - REDUX!, and other fine magic at gumroad.com/mb217magic
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
Gerald,
The ring pictured in the link is not my ring, but another he has previously made. I do have pics of my ring, however, and it is beautiful. I should be receiving it in the mail shortly. |
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Douglas.M Elite user 465 Posts |
After seeing Garret Thomas lecture, I purchased a Morgan Dollar ring to do the move where he changes the ring into a coin, and then "spears" it with his finger turning it back into a ring (Ring Thing).
I originally received mine from the NY Public Library Store, but they no longer list these coin rings. My ring has no detail (smooth) on the inside and tons of detail on the outside (laurels, "ONE DOLLAR" words, and eagle wings/head). The words/images are curved yet symmetrical- it is a very well-crafted ring. I found out that the silver smith who made these rings is named Kat Clare. Her e-mail is kat@katclare.com I am all behind DIY, but if you want a really nice coin ring, contact Kat. Douglas M. |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
My experience with wearing silver is my finger turns green. if anyon else has this problem just put some clear nail polish on the inside of the ring and problem solved.
vinny ps the rings look teriffic |
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Chris SD Special user 737 Posts |
I like this guy's e-bay listings; very entertaining.
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