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ogami_itto
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Hi all

Just had a though regarding my postion in magic. Let me explain.

I absolutely adore watching are learning from all the hugely skilled magicians out there, but I am not a performer in any sense of the word. The things that I learn in the main are well beyond my skill and confidence to perform other than the occasional trick for friends etc. I love playing with my cards but my fingers will never be nible enough to carry out the amazing things that I have seen! lol

My question is, is it acceptable in the magic community to be a non-performing but enthusiastic `magician'?

Thanks

Ogami
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Yes.

Cardamagically,
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We don't stop playing when we grow old...we grow old when we stop playing.

God is enough, let go, let God. Gal 2:20

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Why not?

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Anyway, we all had to start this way, no ?
nattefrost
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Of course! There's no "rules" on that stuff!
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Do you have to be an artist to appreciate great art?
a mechanic to drive a car?
a parachutist to fly a airplane?..........well maybe that last one.
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Of course! My first gig is on Friday but I still consider myself a magician because I have knowledge of the art. So basically, if you practice the art, you are a magician. Hope that helps your philosophical thoughts on this subject ;-)
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I am sure there are many people (magicians) out there who learnt a trick and went right out there and performed it. I am sure there are also many who took a long time to perform.
I am a language teacher and when students learn a new language, a lot of them go through what we call the "silent period". They understand the language well enough depending on what they have been taught and what they have acquired but they don't speak. Then all of a sudden they develop the confidence, the language comes to them and they start speaking like they have been doing it for months.
I am sure you are just going through a silent period.
The wrong thing to do with a student is to force them to speak. All the same the wrong thing to do would be to force you to perform until you are ready.
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There's still TONS of stuff I can't do yet.
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So many times I thought I would never be able to perform this or that. Anyway, I still practiced this stuff, because I love to. In the long run practice led to confidence, and confidence led to performance.

Who knows where you will be ending?

I think you do better by withholding when not yet ready than many performers who lack practice. Be welcome to the magic community!
ogami_itto
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Thankyou so much everyone. Your thoughts are very much appreciated Smile

I will now end my (very) extended lurking period and get more involved!
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Some months back, there was a thread about practicing like crazy with no intent to perform. It was loaded with responses of magi who worked hard on their magic, but had no plans to perform. Who knows, you might be the next Nick Trost, branching into inventing new tricks...
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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Idol hands are the devils playground.
We all need hobbies, most magicians never perform for a wage in front of an audience of strangers.

But if you give performing a shot you will get addicted.
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How is this different from singing in the shower?

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That's "idle hands", I believe. Unless you have a suspiciously large collection of gloves, nail polish bottles and a small hidden altar in your basement with photos of hands all over it. Which would be fine too, don't get me wrong. Smile

Very interesting about that "silent period" for language students. I have recently come out from exactly that myself, I just never knew it was a common phenomenon. Of all Spanish students atound me, it seemed to happen only to me. Thanks! This could be good news for us magicians with little performance experience and confidence. Perhaps there is hope!

As for dexterity, I started with magic at age 38 and although I will never do XCM, I have to my surprise reached what I think is a fairly decent skill level with things you actually need in magic, such as false shuffles and cuts. It just takes me longer probably to learn certain things than for a teenager.

When things go slow I try to tell myself: "it's not a contest". No matter how slow it goes, you will always be better at magic than your laymen spectators.
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Quote:
On 2009-06-04 11:49, The Amazing Noobini wrote:
Of all Spanish students atound me, it seemed to happen only to me.


That’s funny they “ATOUND” me too, oops I meant to say Astound!
Please forgive me my brain must have been idle.
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Ogami,

Magic starts with watching and learning. As you learn you will start looking for an audience to show and before you know it, you will be performing. Don't rush the process. Just let it happen.

Keep watching, learning and practicing. The rewards are great my friend.

Best Magical Wishes,
Joe
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Mysterious,
You did it again!

I think that was supposed to be "around" but I may be wrong as well...Smile
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On 2009-06-04 17:09, jjduck wrote:
Mysterious,
You did it again!

I think that was supposed to be "around" but I may be wrong as well...Smile


What would I do without you guy’s?
I think it might be time for me to find a new hobby and get back to performing magic!
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Sorry I got a little off track... but I couldn't help myself..
Joe
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