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Any of you fellows got one of these and do you like it or not?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8034877.stm
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Now, if you could put your own files (i.e., like magic e-books) onto this thing, I might consider buying it. Frankly, I like reading hard copy (i.e., paper) and don't care for this any more than I do for "on screen" e-books. I print out my e-books and then read that hard copy.

The "powers that be" predicted the end of hard copy books about 10 years ago (can't remember the name of that ill-fated product) and it was it (and not the hard copy books that it hoped to replace) that disappeared. I look for Kindle and the (Sony?) version to both fizzle.

Time will tell.

Mike

P.S. That said, I do like my Zune and I've placed almost 30 gig of "books on tape" (audio books) onto it. A great airport diversion device.
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Tommy-

Yes, I have one. I consider it one of the best things to come along in ages. About my only criticism is that it does not have an internal light for reading in low light conditions. I have recommended this to a number of friends and relatives, so we now have about a half dozen Kindles in action and everyone loves theirs.

My "SO" just upgraded to the new version, and it is really slick. Better graphics (although mine is all I need to enjoy reading), better ergonomics and more features.

I especially love the dictionary, which integrates so you can define words as they occur, and the variable font which, as my eyes get worse, allows me to read comfortably without glasses. Most popular books are in the $10 range, with older texts and some magic books as low as $1.

You can buy a book from your easy chair, rather instantly, or get the news, weather, stock reports thru internet. And, yes, you can have your own material transferred to your Kindle. Mine can hold several hundred full size books, and the new version many more.

I give it very high marks!

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I was going to buy a Kindle, but now I'm waiting for the Plastic Logic reader. It looks like a much nicer device, allows for more file types. I just hope they don't price it at limb level...

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On 2009-06-01 03:03, Turk wrote:
Now, if you could put your own files (i.e., like magic e-books) onto this thing, I might consider buying it.***

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On 2009-06-01 09:25, mandarin wrote:
Tommy-

Yes, I have one. I consider it one of the best things to come along in ages.***

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And, yes, you can have your own material transferred to your Kindle. Mine can hold several hundred full size books, and the new version many more.

I give it very high marks!

Jim


Now you're talking. Might even get me to switch from "hard copy".

BTW, do any of these devices come without wireless? If not, is there a wireless subscription rate (Monthly? Yearly?) that has to be paid in addition to the base price? Finally, if wireless, do you also have to pay each source (i.e., like the NYT or Newsweek, tec.) for downloads of their periodical or, is that included in eihter the base rate and/or the wireless rate?

Best,

Mike

P.S. I am assuming that these devices each upload using a proprietary file syustem. If so, do any of these devices allow download retrieval from the device back into the original format (i.e., your Word doc or .pdf?
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I have the Kindle 2. Love it. Fast downloads, inexpensive books, the dictionary and bookmark features are great, the capacity is big enough that I can hang onto the books I want to keep (generally nonfiction) and dump (most of) the novels. Just got back from a week in New Orleans...read all or part of about 5 books between flight time and layovers, including new hardbacks - didn't have to pack or store any of 'em.
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BTW, do any of these devices come without wireless? If not, is there a wireless subscription rate (Monthly? Yearly?) that has to be paid in addition to the base price? Finally, if wireless, do you also have to pay each source (i.e., like the NYT or Newsweek, tec.) for downloads of their periodical or, is that included in eihter the base rate and/or the wireless rate?




The Sony Ebook readers do not have wireless capability. I have seen them, but I don't own one. Both owners that I have spoken to love their Sony readers and don't seem at all to desire wireless.

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On 2009-06-01 03:03, Turk wrote:
Now, if you could put your own files (i.e., like magic e-books) onto this thing, I might consider buying it.***

***


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On 2009-06-01 09:25, mandarin wrote:
Tommy-

Yes, I have one. I consider it one of the best things to come along in ages.***

***

And, yes, you can have your own material transferred to your Kindle. Mine can hold several hundred full size books, and the new version many more.

I give it very high marks!

Jim


Now you're talking. Might even get me to switch from "hard copy".

BTW, do any of these devices come without wireless? If not, is there a wireless subscription rate (Monthly? Yearly?) that has to be paid in addition to the base price? Finally, if wireless, do you also have to pay each source (i.e., like the NYT or Newsweek, tec.) for downloads of their periodical or, is that included in eihter the base rate and/or the wireless rate?

Best,

Mike

P.S. I am assuming that these devices each upload using a proprietary file syustem. If so, do any of these devices allow download retrieval from the device back into the original format (i.e., your Word doc or .pdf?


Mike-

The Kindle is a wireless device, but you can turn the wireless feature off anytime you want. The wireless feature allows you to download books from the Kindle. You can also download at amazon.com from a computer.

There is no monthly charge for any of this, nor for many news sources, blogs, etc. However, most major newspapers and mags charge a fee of a dollar a month or so for a subscription. Incidentally, Amazon just came out with a larger version for those who enjoy reading newspapers and/or students. The plan may be to put textbooks on the Kindle which, even including the device purchase, would save students a bundle.

I don't have an answer for your last question. You might go to the "Kindle Store" at amazon.com and look around. Some good detail there.

Hope this helps!

Jim
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There is a lot of misunderstanding about this device. I had the Kindle 2 and now have the Kindle DX. Let me first tell you what I have on my Kindle now, it may answer some of your questions.

BOOKS:
There are 24 Novels, some classic, some new. These are for my wife to read as she is a big reader. Also for both of us, there are:
>The complete works of Rudyard Kipling (500+).
>Complete works of O’Henry.
>Complete works of Edgar Allen Poe.
>Complete works of William Shakespeare (127 plays & all his sonnets and poems).
All four of those “Complete Works” collections cost under $5.00 for each collection and are fully searchable.
>I have several (6) major reference books and encyclopedias.
>I have a subscription to the New York Times and my local newspaper.
>I have a subscription to Time and Readers Digest.
>I get 6 Blogs that I am interested in.
All the books and collections download in about 60 seconds each and are backed up at Amazon/Kindle without charge. There is No Charge for the 3G (Sprint) network that is always connected to my kindle (unless I choose to turn it off.)
The newspapers and other subscriptions are downloaded without my doing anything, day and night. People on my street have their paper on their doorstep by about 8:am, I have mine on my Kindle at 5:am, every morning, seven days a week.

Note: there is never (for me) any worry about running out of space, as the Kindle DX holds 3500 books.

The Kindle has its own email address that I can send Word and PDF files to for display on the screen. I keep hundreds of Magic information there.

About the screen:
The screen is not an LCD screen, it is like reading paper and can be read in bright sunlight comfortably (unlike a computer screen.) Just like a book, any lighting that you could read a book in, you can read the Kindle. I do carry in my bag a small light that clips onto the Kindle if I must read in low light.

After not being able to read books or magazines for about 20 years, I can read again. The changeable type on the Kindle brings anything I’m reading up to about 16 points. AND if I have something to do with my hands and eyes, but really want to continue reading something, no problem, the Kindle will read aloud to me.

These are just some of the things I like about this device.

Bob
PS.. There is a large dictionary on board that displays information any place you put the cursor as your reading. I can underline in the books, add notes, and so much more.
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It kinda sucks...

Unlike a book you can unfortunately, only get ONE use out of it if you take it camping and forget to pack any toilet paper...
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You may be right, but for someone that is legally blind (like myself) it has been a godsend.
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Actually, the latest model, the Kindle TP2, has a built in dispenser...
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So a quick question. You can't load e-books stored on your computer to this thing? You can only read what you download from Kindle?

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Can you highlight portions of text for quick review at a later time?

Edit:
I just re-read and saw that you can add notes, underline, etc.

Sounds like a sweet device!!
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So a quick question. You can't load e-books stored on your computer to this thing? You can only read what you download from Kindle?

V.

It depends on what format they are in. The Kindle DX reads and convert most PDF files and all DOC files. I have lots of magic stuff and I just moved an eBook (PDF) from my desktop to the Kindle.

Bob
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Does it receive the free 3G internet like I read here for emails? I am not talking about Wi Fi but free internet Amazon pays for. Really thinking about getting this. I want to be able to get and send my emails (bookings). Thanks for help!

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The only benefit is you could store a hundred books (well some large number, maybe not necessarily a hundred), and ease of portability. However, I agree with Turk on this one. I like real pages that I can flip back and forth, highlight, write notes on, etc...

And I like to be able to place multiple book marks and refer back to pages several chapters back. To my knowledge, you can't stick bookmarks inside a Kindle and grab a hold of them like you can with a physical book to flip back and forth between pages. With a real book, I can even look at two pages at the same time (like in separate chapters) by holding open the pages at each break.

Now when we can download books into our brains like in the Matrix... I'm all about that. I know kung fu.
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The only benefit is you could store a hundred books (well some large number, maybe not necessarily a hundred), and ease of portability. However, I agree with Turk on this one. I like real pages that I can flip back and forth, highlight, write notes on, etc...

And I like to be able to place multiple book marks and refer back to pages several chapters back. To my knowledge, you can't stick bookmarks inside a Kindle and grab a hold of them like you can with a physical book to flip back and forth between pages. With a real book, I can even look at two pages at the same time (like in separate chapters) by holding open the pages at each break.

Now when we can download books into our brains like in the Matrix... I'm all about that. I know kung fu.


The Kindle and the Nook both hold well over a thousand books in the current incarnations. That's far from being the "only" benefit. They also have brand new hardcovers for a fraction of the price of brick and mortar stores, instant download (no shipping costs and no delivery wait for those books that aren't at your local store), variable text sizes, multiple bookmarks, point & click dictionary throughout your books, and more.

You can also highlight passages and add notes, and zero in directly on highlighted pages. But don't do it with an actual physical marker; it's bad for the screen.
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