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Eric Leclerc
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On 2009-11-13 11:40, Dannydoyle wrote:
Wow they blow through The Lean, they float the pad, bowling ball trick and the briefcase bowling ball. They dillute far more than 2 effects!


All in SLOW MO! Amazing!
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I'd say between this and Soma's (sp?) act with the reverse time lean and T&R newspaper, some of the best uses of these ideas.
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I watched the video and kept thinking about David Copperfield and his duck routine the entire time. Some may not agree, but IMO I saw this more as a copy of another's routine instead of emulating another magician's hard work. The similarities were to uncanny for my taste. I did, however, like the lean at the end.
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On 2009-12-07 05:39, Mr. Muggle wrote:
I watched the video and kept thinking about David Copperfield and his duck routine the entire time. Some may not agree, but IMO I saw this more as a copy of another's routine instead of emulating another magician's hard work. The similarities were to uncanny for my taste. I did, however, like the lean at the end.

If you make a side-by-side comparison, I think you'll agree that it is incorrect to use the word "copy".
Copperfield: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0DI6B4UAK8
Brynolf&Ljung: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daytv3RdOV4

No lines, moves, tricks, music, props or choreography are duplicated. Neither is the "kicker" duplicated (a stuffed animal that becomes real).
The basic idea "a trick being explained with incongruous actions in slowmotion" is the same however - and Brynolf & Ljung are openly saying that the inspiration comes from Copperfield. At most, it can be slightly frowned upon, but the differences are big and significant enough to be evaluated as a new piece, and not a copy.
Personally, I would say that the difference are as between "Romeo and Juliet" and "West Side Story" (where the latter is based on the former).

It is less a copy than Copperfied's usage of Finn Jon's serpent tie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edrck-141sQ

A "copy" is when more than the basic plot is being used, as in this example where props, moves, choreography and more has been duplicated. No one can claim that this isn't Christopher Hart's Disembodied Hand routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TshbBWilvh4
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Thanks for posting DC's dancing tie. A great overall routine.
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Interesting, thanks!
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Very funny
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How do you pronounce their names?
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On 2009-12-12 18:11, Mac_Stone wrote:
How do you pronounce their names?

Brynolf and Ljung?
Tricky question, since it's difficult to find similar phonetics in English.

The etymology of the name Brynolf is ancient german, a combination of the words for "Hauberk" (chainmail armour) and "Wolf", so I guess the original meaning is "The armored wolf".
"Bryn" is pronounced like this: http://lexikon.nada.kth.se/ljud/bryn.mp3
"Olf" is pronounced as written.

The etymology of the name Ljung is from the plant Calluna vulgaris, known in English as Common Heather, Ling, or simply Heather.
"Ljung" is pronounced like this: http://lexikon.nada.kth.se/ljud/ljung.mp3
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On 2009-12-13 15:14, TStone wrote:
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On 2009-12-12 18:11, Mac_Stone wrote:
How do you pronounce their names?

Brynolf and Ljung?
Tricky question, since it's difficult to find similar phonetics in English.

The etymology of the name Brynolf is ancient german, a combination of the words for "Hauberk" (chainmail armour) and "Wolf", so I guess the original meaning is "The armored wolf".
"Bryn" is pronounced like this: http://lexikon.nada.kth.se/ljud/bryn.mp3
"Olf" is pronounced as written.

The etymology of the name Ljung is from the plant Calluna vulgaris, known in English as Common Heather, Ling, or simply Heather.
"Ljung" is pronounced like this: http://lexikon.nada.kth.se/ljud/ljung.mp3

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On 2009-12-13 15:52, Ray Tupper. wrote:
You know what Tom,it's little things like this post that made me glad I've spent a few quid on your products.
You seem like a really nice guy!I feel a lot better when I know my money has gone to a decent bloke!
Ray.

Thanks for the very unexpected compliment Ray!
I certainly try to be a nice guy, and some days I even succeed with it - but I'm still surprised at how you managed to deduce that out of a post about linguistics and etymology. Smile
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Psssss ...
...none of these are the first use of the slo motion or even the time explanation routine

Before the advent of slo motion in TV sports altering time was presented as a way the trick was done

Study the art of magic and you will find these uses dating back to ...

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