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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts 
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I do, I do.
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DrVG Loyal user 294 Posts
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Hi sleevers out there, a technical question:
i perform with long jacket sleeve busking nearly surrounded. Noticed that despite misdirection, people who tried hard to catch me instead of following the story would be able to see me sleeving the ball from the side. Looking myself in the mirror from the SIDE I can also see the flash of the ball. Is sleeving objects bigger than coin to be relegated to stage only ? Any advice ? thanks |
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Wravyn Inner circle 3692 Posts
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On Jul 11, 2024, DrVG wrote: Have you been told they could see? What is your misdirection? You can see it because you know it is happening. https://doceason.com/product/leading-with-your-head/ Or, if you can find a copy of Rocco Silano's book https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic-......eeve-it/ |
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Michael Rubinstein V.I.P. 4769 Posts
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Jeffery Wang has incredible sleeving technique, you can see it on his Penn and Teller Fool Us spot, and it is taught on his Penguin Live lecture download.
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DrVG Loyal user 294 Posts
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On Jul 11, 2024, Wravyn wrote: thanks for your inputs. I perform in the street, usually half surrounded. Crowd usually voice out what they think to see or actually see. In this very case I m performing the Walrus 3 balls routine (1 in the pocket, 3 in hands), the misdirection is my body position (left hand going up and front, head turning towards left hand, as the left hand opens and reveal there are still 3 balls). the sleeving happens with the right hand that was hanging down and raise up to scratch my chin or point to the public or other motivated movement). People that catch me are always the ones located on my right side. I do not want to use a spec as assistant to cover my right angle as it is a solo "personnality" part of my act. if I record me from the right side I can spot a flash |
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DrVG Loyal user 294 Posts
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On Jul 12, 2024, Michael Rubinstein wrote: great act; not sure I can arm and sleeve a ball with rolled up sleeves; he s another league. |
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Zauberman Veteran user 325 Posts
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Hey Dr. I perform largely on the streets also.
I have found that if you propel the object such as a coin (E.M. Roberts)...works great, absolutely no flash to anyone surrounded. However sleeving larger objects such as a golf ball, jumbo coin... by lifting the hand & dropping....there's very likely a flash for someone around you. The only way around is to have larger & longer sleeves....which IMHO looks bad & more obvious. So it seems we're both experiencing it the same. |
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3554 Posts
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It's my go to method to "prime the pump" for my Miser's Dream routine. Although I suppose you'd call this method "reverse sleeving" or something. I dunno...
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Mb217 Inner circle 9616 Posts
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Hey, I rather like the EM Robert’s method myself, and have played with s***ving for some time now. I don’t get a chance to do it a lot much these days, but still love the art of it. Never did it much with balls, but with coins it always seemed to me that the misdirection was sorta built right into going into the action of it. I’ve never had anyone catch me using it, and I’ve used various methods of doing it. I still remember my days with Silver Dream fondly.
 But it sounds from the immediate question that misdirection is certainly at the core of the challenges here. Some good responses so far.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27353 Posts
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When are you doing the sleight; relative to when you open your left hand?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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fonda57 Inner circle chicago 3082 Posts
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Sleeving is fun, and you can get a lot of good magical results.
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DrVG Loyal user 294 Posts
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On Aug 10, 2024, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Are you familiar with the Walrus routine ? If not I ll give you more details but basically I need to sl***e one ball in my RH at different stages in the routine. A : I m making one ball jump invisibly from my top RH to my LH under it. Ball appears in bottom LH that starts to rise, while RH drops and relax along body. I open my LH to show the ball between thumb and inder, meanwhile the RH raise and sleeve and mirror the LH (though empty) B: 2 in hands 1 in pocket phase. RH put the "3rd" in my pocket, remove it. call attention on the LH that moves forward. As LH opens, RH goes up and s****e the ball then moves to pick up and display the balls from LH |
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countrymaven Inner circle 1452 Posts
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Anyone interested in sleeving should also see Rocco's Penguin live and at the Table Live. He masterfully often gets one object, palming another hidden one, and sleeves the hidden object so that he can make a very clean production after clearly showing that only the object he just visibly showed is in his hands.
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Joshua J Inner circle 1103 Posts
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Just got Jeffrey Wang's now you sleeve me on Ellusionist. Half price at the moment with code: warehouse
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PressureFan Regular user 110 Posts
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Jay Marshall sleeves salt on his Table Crap video. Just a pile of loose salt. Crazy.
"Earn more sessions by sleeving." -Roxanne |
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mindmagic Inner circle London 1790 Posts
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Many years ago I attended a lecture by David Berglas in which he demonstrated his sleeving technique. It was about the most magical thing that I had ever seen. There's a whole chapter on it in Ganson's The Art of Close-Up vol. 2.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9616 Posts
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*Check out my latest: Gifts From The Old Country: A Mini-Magic Book, MBs Mini-Lecture on Coin Magic, The MB Tanspo PLUS, MB's Morgan, Copper Silver INC, Double Trouble, FlySki, Crimp Change - REDUX!, and other fine magic at gumroad.com/mb217magic
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8821 Posts
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Yes. If it fits...
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
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DrVG Loyal user 294 Posts
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Justin Miller has a great project on sleeving.
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Kjellstrom Inner circle Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe 5232 Posts
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I use sleeving for coins and cards. I also combine sleeving with a topit, makes my magic more magical.
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