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reese
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Tom, I want to hear your thoughts.

Thx, Tim
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Tom: Questions about eh mindset of a conman are exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you.

Jamie: Great questions! I will answer them very soon. I'm getting quite a backlog lol!

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How does a person work singulo? What are the strategies, patterns, and money move you would tend to use? ...or would you just win more than you lose?

How else is it different than working with a crew?

What, if anything, do you think should be done differently by workers than it is done now?
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On 2009-06-19 20:22, mota wrote:
How does a person work singulo? What are the strategies, patterns, and money move you would tend to use? ...or would you just win more than you lose?


I think if working single-o you must win more than you lose, otherwise you're in a bad spot. Single-o workers don't have the latitude that crews have in moving the money around.
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Whit Haydn's newest DVD on the shells details a method that would work great for single-o. It's basically group play taking multiple bets, doing whatever maneuvers you like from Whit's arsenal, and you collect from the high players and pay out the low players. No crew required for this strategy, although a lookout and some backup would always be nice.
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Man, I hope nothing happened to topandball- this is a fascinataing topic!

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Yeah,

I'm feeling a bit guilty for tossing the thread around. Hope it's not the reason for this silence. If so, I apologize to Tom et all for getting off topic. I shan't post in this thread again.

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Folks, I'm around. Haven't been able to get online in a while. I will pick the thread back up when my situation is better for internet access.

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This thread is rather silent, too bad.
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If you look above your post you will see why. Stuff happens. Once topandball has access again I'm sure things will pick up.
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I certainly hope so, as I'm rather enjoying this thread.

I'm very happy to say that most of my questions have already been asked by others.
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Top and ball, are you on the bonnaroo grifter video. the one school for scoundrels use?
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I know you've been talking about shells and the like so far, but I was curious about the process (if any) of getting involved in a card mob- do you have to stick to it on your own until you happen to bump into the right people? I remember reading in one of Simon lovell's books that there are a few select hand gestures that are made when you sit down at a table... Are those still used, or is that as old as "the sting"? Or would you just start a mob with others who are interested... Any thoughts?
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I am just learning the shells, and found this thread fascinating. I am so gonna start playing my kids for their milk money now! I hope TopandBall comes back for more stories..
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On 2009-06-18 23:15, topandball wrote:
Re. the morality of this, I believe that the mark's loss is caused by his inclination to take advantage of someone, and he is responsible for his actions. I also firmly believe that this fact does not do anything to mitigate our culpability for being the agent of that loss.

-B

Topandball......you have a legal background? I found this part of an earlier post very well written.
My question? glad you asked.....
what is your favorite hustle? what is your favorite type of mark? how many places do you travel a year?
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Did we ever find out what happened to Top? This was one of the greatest threads ever...

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I'm still alive guys (and gals). I've not had any convenient internet connection for quite some time. Been staying in cheap motels.

magicmind: No legal background. I just have thought about issues of morality in great depth. And thank you for the compliment.

People, I'm really very interested in answering your questions, but I have been very busy of late. I will be back to (attempt to) answer all the questions I have backlogged here. So many good questions!

-B
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On 2009-06-18 13:35, topandball wrote:

Chad: all those places. The only places you missed are: flea markets, and anywhere we see a mark and one of us says, "tell him what you just told me!" And you're off! It's very extemporaneous the way we play.


I'm guessing that the "tell him what you just told me" line is said from one hustler to another? What happens next? What is told?

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Is topandball around? Looking forward to hearing more from him.
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Two years later and I still think about this thread from time to time. Too bad he never came back!
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