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michaangelo Regular user 184 Posts |
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On 2009-06-30 17:53, Doug Lippert wrote: Dude, This thread is less than 24 hours old... Take a chill pill on the nasty attitude and business critique... This isn't their forum and not everyone sits by their computer to answer every little question from someone on The Magic Café... I'm not a fan of, or employee of Ellusionist, but I also think people need to get realistic! Give a guy 24 hours to respond to questions before you get all high and mighty! Just my $.02 |
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johnsanders New user 12 Posts |
Still waiting for a review, but alas it was just released Monday. Can't wait to hear about the road tested results. Just guessing you may have to clean up the floor behind the window? I'd be disappointed to find a mag****c card barely taped to another normal card and a PK r**g or mag*** in the dominant hand. Just guessing, please don't beat me if I'm not even close. I'll try it, see if it looks the same and let you know.
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Jordini Inner circle 2765 Posts |
Two things about this bother me:
1) If you are such an amazing magician that you can change a card through a window, why do you have to use tape to stick it there?? Looks a bit tacky. Part of the reason card on ceiling is so amazing is people don't know HOW it is stuck up there. 2) Why is sleight of hand extraordinaire David Stone using the Hindu force?!?! |
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Nico Zottos Elite user 486 Posts |
1) card on ceiling has a different premise. The base of the effect is not the card sticking to the window, its the color change. The window is there to make it more impossible. there is no point of having a card magically stuck to the other side of the window. Has no relevance to the color change/transpo effect at all.
2) why isn't he? is that really something that needs to be asked. It was his choice of force. |
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tenchu Inner circle Europe 1117 Posts |
About the hindu force, Jordini - why not? It works for lay people.
Plus it's just a trailer for Window, not the amazing showcase of Stone's skills. |
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
Wow, the quality of feedback for this effect is declining The effect however still looks quite good.
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Irishghost Inner circle www.gaffguy.com 1228 Posts |
Wait, you have to switch the card out before handing it out? Come on people, if you didn't have to switch it, or use tape to hold it then it would be magic, and last time I checked there is no such thing, only the Ellusion of magic. This is by far the most visual card through window to date and we are worried about a clean up? Can it be signed will be the next question LOL
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Voldemort Special user Florida 562 Posts |
Can the card be signed?
LOL. I couldn't resist. I've got a pretty good idea as to whats happening. I think I get it, and how the full routine would go. It does look great and if its as practical as its said to be... I'll be happy! V.
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bugjack Inner circle New York, New York 1624 Posts |
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On 2009-06-30 20:31, Jordini wrote: I like that they just shot the video using a pretty easy handling. We can all see that it's a force. I'm sure that it's easy to substitute a fancier one. |
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Irishghost Inner circle www.gaffguy.com 1228 Posts |
I agree bugjack, I like demos that show an effect from start to finish. I also think that once reviews come in people will get it. Stone would not back an effect that was garbage. And the creator is a great thinker and artist! Oh an Jean is a wicked producer ( sorry for using the word wicked, but it fits his style)
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NYCJoePitt Special user 558 Posts |
Maybe David Stone should have pulled a Richard Sanders' Identity and just showed MUCH LESS of the effect in the demo video and then there would not be anything for us Magi to pick apart and complain about, before we even buy the durn thing! LOL
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Voldemort Special user Florida 562 Posts |
Nah... Then there would be complaining about to much editing.
Two quarters, fifty cents. Same thing. V.
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magician81 Loyal user singapore 293 Posts |
My bad if I have missed it, in the demo trailer, I do not think I saw any card 'penetration' through the window. Am I wrong on this?
never try, never know
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Voldemort Special user Florida 562 Posts |
I think its more of a transposition.
At least that's what I would call it. V.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2009-06-30 20:28, johnsanders wrote: And what would be wrong with that? Why would you be disappointed if that was what got the job done, and it sounds like that would get the job done pretty clean, especially if you did it on a window in a wall, where the spec could not go around right away.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
Wait, there was a podcast? Where was that?
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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bugjack Inner circle New York, New York 1624 Posts |
It's on the Ellusionist blog. A half hour with Stone and Jean talking about their various work together and then this effect.
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Irishghost Inner circle www.gaffguy.com 1228 Posts |
Transpo then card through window. Actually the second phase would be a double card through window. The one in your hand going through the glass from your side to the other, and the other card coming through the other side to your side. Hope I didn't confuse anyone lol
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Voldemort Special user Florida 562 Posts |
So maybe we should call it a "Transposition through window".
I don't know. I'm not exactly sure how the handling works for the first phase yet. But it seems from the double one-handed fans and the wave your giving the impression that the face down card on the performers side of the window goes through the window and turns face up on the other side. How practical that phase will be remains to be seen. I think the second phase is more the main effect. With a different set-up. But that's all speculation as I nor anyone else has this yet. V.
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Ron Vergilio Special user Murrieta, CA 835 Posts |
Perhaps, that's why it's called "WINDOW" and not Card Through Window.
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