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Xiqual Inner circle Upper left quadrant 4935 Posts |
It's hard to believe how idiotic people are on youtube.
Comments like "Not very magical." just crack me up. This routine is so magical. David Stone is a fantastic artist. James
Still with the Chinese circus
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Kjellstrom Inner circle Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe 5203 Posts |
It requires a great artist to pull of a great trick.
If you are a mediocre then the result almost gets to the level of true mediocrity, sure. |
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Irishghost Inner circle www.gaffguy.com 1228 Posts |
5 more days and this should be in my mailbox!!! It's like waiting for Christmas.
I get to gaff some cool stuff for some cool people
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
John Kennedy's is still more magical though, and more direct It also costs at least 3 times more, ha ha ha. I like Window though, very visual.
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Powermagic Inner circle 1437 Posts |
IG you should not be surprised at all.
I will give you the answer. Yes while some pick apart since most magicians are cheap and just want the secrets and never intend to perform. MOST just want to know if if it is exactly as they read and what they see. SORRY my friend, I guess you have not been burnt by these new video clips that sell a DVD of an effect and when you get it, the effect still is not practical. That is, they used camera angles and clips to make the effect look 10x better than it was or more practical than it is. IT used to be we would read magic catalogs and drool over the descriptions only to be disappointed that the "Revolutionary new system" was a rubber band. One would think the introduction of video would have eliminated disappointment but the reality is, these are pitch videos. In the last few years I have been burnt by quite a few of these DVDs. While the tricks can work, they are less likely to work in real world settings. This is why magicians, who now have an open world wide forum, ask allot of questions. I think most magicians should learn HOW to ask questions without trying to get the actual method. Asking about angles, clothing requirements, and if the effect matches the video without alteration, all are valid. Look it is a business. They are trying to get your money. Nothing wrong with that. BUT if it does not look the same as when they demo it live, then maybe they are thinking more about their pocket than yours. There are allot of young guys out there now putting single trick, looks great on video DVDs with very little real world testing. They are just banging these things out to make a quick buck. So yes I say some should not ask just because they want to know. But I think you now should be able to see that the questions from some are only stemming from the fact is that edited video is just as misleading as that old time catalog copy. Quote:
On 2009-06-30 16:40, Irishghost wrote: |
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Michael Peterson Inner circle is where I'm trapped, because of my 4071 Posts |
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On 2009-07-01 09:05, Xiqual wrote: I'm curious about this myself,$70.00 is pretty steep for a gimmicked card(and the routine). I wonder about the durability of the gimmick & the expected lifespan? It looks great! Mike |
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itsmagic Inner circle middle earth 1117 Posts |
Very true - how many times have we been burned by misleading advertisements. Rave, positive reviews that don't address limitations can lead to a disappointed purchases too.
It's too bad there's no way to review a magical effect completely and thoroughly, including the method and gimmick - because that would reveal everything. It's the nature of magic - we are purchasing the secret. How many drawer fulls of junk lay around magician's home? Because once secret is told, the trick is sold. So we make the best educated purchasing decision we can, from "reviews", from asking questions, from picking apart demo videos. From watching the demos of Window and from past releases of David Stone, I surmise that Window would be a great buy. Although I'm known to make impulse buys, I will wait to read more reviews from users who have the product before taking the plunge. |
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
The problem with these so called "reviews" on the Café is that most of the time our purchase decision really don't come frome reading these "reviews" (the majority of them lacks anything substantial to make them a good assessment of the product). Our decisions usually are swayed heavily by hype or negative opinions from folks who generally do not have the product.
Also, once a demo has been sufficiently picked apart, do you honestly believe that the majority of the people who now knows the secret workings of an effect is actually going to now go out and purchase it? Be reasonable here, they are not unless they realize that it's not something that they can easily make themselves. This is one of the reasons that so many excellent effects gets passed up on because people realize that the method is simple and thus the method does not appeal to them. In the end they totally ignore what really is important, which is how is the effect for our audiences? |
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
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On 2009-07-02 14:13, kissdadookie wrote: I'm going to guess and say that a lot of "magicians" only perform for themselves in front of their bedroom/bathroom mirror. (nothing wrong with that I might add) So, a cool method is the MAIN detail that appeals to this group. Not audience reaction in the real world. The problem develops when guys look for exposure of methods and only buy those methods they like or like you said; they can't gaff themselves.. The right thing to do would be to wait for reviews and honest opinions before purchasing a magic effect. That way there's an informed decision instead of CUPS. ------------------- In regards to Window, can it be done on a glass coffee/dining table?
Douglas Lippert
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
I don't think you can do it on a glass table. It won't work if you stick the card to the underside of the table like that.
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booswain Loyal user 290 Posts |
This looks really cool....i may have to get it just to figure it out
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
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On 2009-07-02 15:15, booswain wrote: No offense is intended towards you booswain. But, there's a concrete example of why professional magic effects are so overpriced..to keep out the merely curious! ----------------- Thanks for answering my question kissdadookie.
Douglas Lippert
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Voldemort Special user Florida 562 Posts |
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On 2009-07-02 14:48, Doug Lippert wrote: But the thing is, If everyone waited for a review, there would be no one to give a review. V
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
LoL. I think the old way of buying something if it interests you and hope for the best was still the best way Remember those days? They were so great and each time one buys a effect, it was either a good surprise or a bad surprise. One would soon learn how to intuitively figure out, with good success, what were to be good purchases and what were to be bad purchases (the days when people picked apart the written ad-copies).
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
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On 2009-06-29 20:41, Mercury52 wrote: Kevin, when I saw the demo on the Ellusionist site, I thought the same. It looks so magical.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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BMWGuy Inner circle Texas 2564 Posts |
REVIEW: WINDOW by DAVID STONE/JEAN LUC BERTRAND/MICHAEL CHATELAIN
UPS delivered this today to my friends house, mine is on the way and should be here on Monday. Contents: DVD Gimmick necessary for WINDOW to work. Extra little something that goes with gimmick. OK so the DVD is not long, it is around 15 min of instruction. Basically goes over the basic effect that you all saw on the demo. Gimmick is a thing of beauty, and is very well crafted. Bravo to everyone that put this gimmick together. This is by far the easiest card thru window/transposition effect beating out Ultimate CTW, KAOS, MEETING POINT, and others. My favorite CTW before this was DAve Forrests CTW, but now it is WINDOW. DAve Forrest gets #2. This can be ripped open practiced, and be performed the same afternoon. Very easy to handle and do. I will be using this, just need to get it down 100%. 10/10. Love it. Alex
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desmit6 New user Litchfield Park, AZ 5 Posts |
Hey all,
First let me say that this is my first post here, though I've been a member since 2005 and have been reading you guys for quite a while. I wanted to address that since someone is bound to notice that my first post is a product review sold by a site on which I'm a moderator (E). For those that don't know me - I'm 40 and have been performing a variety of magic off and on for over 20 yrs. I'm no kid and am not easily distracted by shiny objects. I just wanted to post my first impressions here since there's so much talk about this and because I really was excited about this effect and am so impressed that it lived up not only to the hype, but to my expectations. I think that for the price of some of the CTW that have come before - this is fairly priced. It blows them away in performability, convenience and visualness. The gimmick is well made and could be made yourself if you needed a replacement assuming you have some understanding of creating card gimmicks. You never need an assistant, stooge or confederate. You CAN do this and it WILL look exactly as it does in the trailer we've all seen. It's ingenious really. No diabolical is more like it. I'm still giggling like an idiot after watching it for the first time. Some highlights: The DVD Dvd is well done, though a bit short in running time. Everything is covered well though and nothing is left out. All the variations are taught through the silent teaching method we're all growing more familiar with (De'vo, Liwag, et al). Everything is plain and easy to understand with multiple views and angles. Even when you see what happens in the exposed view - you're still not sure what you just saw at first. You just laugh at how cool it looks. Any Window? As far as I can tell, yes. You do need access to the other side of the window to get it there, but other than that, no real restrictions I can see..... so no non-opening 100th floor high-rise performances... though with some thought (and window cleaner's rigging), maybe. Difficulty? I'd say easy. You do need some basic slights and minimal misdirection skills, but it's well within the reach of most. 90some percent of you will already know all the sleights you need. He does go ever them briefly, but because they're basic, doesn't go in depth here. Gimmick/Props/Setup Well made gimmick is provided. Very easy to carry. Can be with you whenever you think you might want to perform it. Part is easy to lose, but also easy to replace locally if you do. No biggie. As far as set-up - none really. Just get the card on the far side of the window as stated in the podcast with David and Jean-luc. Props are just dependent on which version you decide to do. Window cleaner, silk, etc. My favorite is just waving a fan of cards in front of the window and having that card change. Incredibly clean and magical. The bare hand version is great too. Overall, after my first viewing, I'm incredibly impressed with this effect. There is much room left for creativity and your own variations in performance. Easily worth the investment and lives up to what you saw in the trailer. I cant wait to perform this! If you liked what you saw in the trailer, you will not be disappointed with the DVD. Great job David, Jean-luc and Mickael! Now I'm off to watch it again and play with it. If you have questions, I'll do my best to answer but may not be able to answer all for obvious reasons. Good luck, Dave |
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BMWGuy Inner circle Texas 2564 Posts |
I agree with David.
This does live up to its hype, and is well within grasp of any performer. Alex
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Voldemort Special user Florida 562 Posts |
Sounds great guys!
Can't wait to get it! Thanks for the reviews. Yes... even from the E mod. LOL V.
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Michael Peterson Inner circle is where I'm trapped, because of my 4071 Posts |
What is the clean up once the card has been changed,I would imagine the performer must remove the card?
Is there a danger if an over zealous spectator runs around to the other side to check the card? As asked before, can you make replacement gimmicks when it wears out? Thanks, Mike |
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