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Floyd Collins Inner circle Ohio 1633 Posts 
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I think they have tried to curve the really bad acts. There are many who enter this contest just to show how bad they truly are hoping to get on TV and someone picks them up as a side show or music video celeb. What would be awesome is a show that only had magicians and mentalists competing, now that would be a show. But then again I am biased to our entertainment over all the others.
No one said it would be easy, or did they?
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magicnewswire Inner circle 1947 Posts
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On 2009-07-05 22:13, aceofharts wrote: Celebracadabra! ;-) |
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edh Inner circle 4698 Posts
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Aceofharts they did. It was called Phenomenon(sp).
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lebowski Veteran user 377 Posts
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Both Phenomenon and Celebracadabra failed to garner enough interest to make it past a single season. Idol and AGT are reaching the numbers so its likely they will stick with their formulas.
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Ray Pierce Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2604 Posts
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On 2009-07-05 14:29, JNeal wrote: lol... exactly... same thing!
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Nyte Dragon New user Tampa, Fl 66 Posts
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Celebracadabra and Penom. both came across, to me, as a one season show anyone. When you think about it...How many seasons in a row can you ask celebs to make total fools out of themselves by attempting to learn a new skill in front of millions....Anyway I gotta go, Dancing With The Stars is on.
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Mark McDermott Regular user Union Mills, IN 111 Posts
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I for one will watch reruns of "the Gong Show" before I waste my time watching this show! It was more fair indeed.
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Ray Pierce Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2604 Posts
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Having done the original Gong Show, it was fun and no, I didn't get gonged. I will say that the judges would randomly gong somewha decent acts if they could come up with a good gag to justify it. It was not so much a contest, but an entertainment program first and foremost. (For those interested, I lost by 2 poiints to an old lady eating pies to music)
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lebowski Veteran user 377 Posts
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I remember you and your partner, that Popsicle Twins act was very clever.
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Ray Pierce Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2604 Posts
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Lol... Twice the magic, chilled to perfection!
Actually I did a candle vanish and dove production. I believe we had less than 60 seconds and they were auditioning on Cahauenga around the corner from Hollywood Magic. I went over one day as a goof and actually got on.
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magicnewswire Inner circle 1947 Posts
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I have to say that overall.. I am enjoying AGT this year. I have not always felt that way in the past and I cannot guarantee that I'll feel that way as the show moves forward.
I just watch it remembering that it is Television... That said, yes.. they'll re-shot and edit things to make them more dramatic. So far, I haven't seen an act that they thought was bad that I liked or an act that they thought was worth going to the next round that I didn't.. well.. maybe, the dancing clerk. She was fun and had enegy, but talent? I dunno. |
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Floyd Collins Inner circle Ohio 1633 Posts
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On 2009-07-06 01:43, Nyte Dragon wrote: Phenomenon and Celebracadabra are not what I was talking about, I was talking about any magician and any mentalist compete like AGT. Phenomenon had auditions outside of the judges before the show started, and celebracadabra was for celebs to learn magic not magicians competing with each other. How about dancing with the magicians??? hehe This is a good thread guys. And I agree with Dodd I am starting to like this years AGT.
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cairo Elite user 406 Posts
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Any magician and any mentalist compete is NOT like AGT, their acts are pre-screened and pre-auditioned, ringers are hired - like the Pendragons - and bad acts are delibertly included - compelling backstory packages are compiled - the on-screen mix appears haphazard but is highly orchestrated. An 'any performer competeing against any performer' does not make a ratings winner, and that's what TV is all about.
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RC4MAG Special user 563 Posts
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I was at one of this year's tapings in NY and all the magicians I saw were pretty horrible. In fact, one act, Pierce got the magician's assistant to admit that the act was slow moving and boring.
This particular show didn't air yet. |
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magicnewswire Inner circle 1947 Posts
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On 2009-07-06 23:14, cairo wrote: Have you tried out or worked for the show cairo? I am sure that they find a story that they can expound upon during the audition process as that does make good TV, but to state it as you have .... well, I'm afraid that you are misinformed. |
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Ray Pierce Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 2604 Posts
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Dodd...
I'm not sure of Cairo's involvement but it's not too far off. There is a lot of pre screening. Typically by the time someone gets on air, they've been to 2 or 3 different calls and/or meetings with the casting directors and segment producers and that's when they really "encourage" their back stories. Th ones they like, they will go out after the fact and film video packages to support their story, ether bad or good. Pros are pre-selected and searched out by the casting directors and asked to come in for the auditions but don't have to wait in line like the others. The only things suspect is the term "hired". The pros go through the later process just like everyone else. They are contracted but not what I would call "hired". The rest was right on the money.
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markmiller Special user 731 Posts
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Perhaps "hired" is the wrong word, but it's not a secret that AFTRA members are paid scale for their appearances.
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cairo Elite user 406 Posts
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I have a relative that works on the "Got Talent" shows both here and abroad. Ray is right, there is a lot more pre and post production on this "talent show" than meets the eye. When a formula works well in one market it is often replicated in others.
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noble1 Special user 651 Posts
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If you read between the lines, I guess that means a lonely, heavy-set, middle-aged, opera-singing, woman, will win hearts, but ultimately lose the contest.
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MagicSanta Inner circle Northern Nevada 5841 Posts
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Ohhhhh baby! For those of you who saw the great performance by Marti Brill should take a look at the edited version he put on youtube to promote himself. Note the reaction, or absence of reaction, now to his 20 years in magic comment, note the new applause that wasn't there, note the comment at the end which was for another magician on another night in another city. This is the kind of guy Marti is.
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