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dylan magic
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Hi,
anyone seen this yet? Sounds a little too good to be true. Smile Impromptu ID deck...
http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1905.
I'd appreciate a review.

Many thanks!
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The demo's don't show what it is. I hate when they do that. This could be great or completely bad. I tend to think it can't be that good, if they can not even show a performance of it.
I'd be carefull until I got a review by someone who has it.

ACE
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The handling looks "smooth" & direct to the point.
Looks like a winning concept.

Watch the effect - http://vimeo.com/5106873
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Well, well. If no card is already face down in the face up deck at the moment the camera eye starts to watch the deck, then YES, it must be very good: it looks indeed as he is just showing the deck face up and revealing that one card was face up. Very smooth if the 'moves' or whatever are done during this moment.

Otherwise, if the video shows the deck after the 'move' or whatever has happened, and then just shows the result, the video is losing most of its interest ("hey look! a card face down in a face up deck! -yes, and?" )

still, interesting idea (non gimmicked ID)
waiting to know more Smile

Cheers,

M.
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I have the dvd. That video is an actual performance of the effect; the card is not already reversed from the start. Yes, it's that clean.
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That video leaves too many questions. Why can't he show the effect from start to finish? Is there something to hide?

ACE
dylan magic
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Exactly..too many videos do this on the market these days..shame..ill hang on till someone reviews it in more detail.
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Mike Close did the same effect in his "Workers" series.
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On 2009-07-04 13:40, Acecardician wrote:
That video leaves too many questions. Why can't he show the effect from start to finish? Is there something to hide?

ACE


What do you mean that video leaves too many questions? I just told you it's an actual performance of the effect. The reversed card could have been any card named and it would have played out exactly like that. That is start to finish.
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The video link that was given to me to watch was not an actual performance of the effect but the end!
So why are they afraid to show the whole effect from start to finish on the video?

All this shows is the end of the effect.
Anyone can show a card upside down.
How was the selected card selected or decided upon?
How does he introduce the deck? Where do you start with the deck? What does he do with the deck before the card is selected or after it is selected? Is the deck suffled? Is it shuffled after the card is selected? It is shuffled before it is selected? How many times does he have to run through the deck? It is run though right in front of people one time? Does he ever cut the deck? Can it be instantly repeated? How much patter and misdirection does he use? Does he take the deck out the box, or his pocket? Can it be done SURROUNDED. Can you do it standing in the middle of a room with people in a complete circle around you, and above you and under you? Those are just a few questions off the top of my head.

Like I said, Mike Close already did this in his worker series, and you get a whole lot more effects on the DVD than one. And his whole presentation and routine.

This video demo for Singularity shows nothing. I think if we stop buying things without a proper video demo, then maybe they will start making complete videos.

If they give a proper video presentation, then I will take back what I said if it is good. At this point, it shows nothing. I would say you can invest the same amount of money in a DVD that has more than one effect on it.

ACE
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True, Michael Close did the same *effect* in his workers series but I doubt the method is the same. Reason being-- the Singularity video (assuming it is truthful) claims "any deck, borrowed, shuffled, can now be invisible."

Close's version is ungimmicked, but his method can definitely NOT use a borrowed and/or shuffled deck.
dylan magic
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Good reply acecardician. the video doesn't show anything, hence my reluctance.
newb, how bout doing a full review?..
Newb2
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Why should I make another post when you guys have so blatantly disregarded my first two? Regardless, I've made my review on Penguin's forums. It basically says the same thing, but perhaps you'll believe that post instead.
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I just got this myself and can say that what you see in the video posted above is how the effect looks from start to finish. A card is named you go thru the deck and the only card reverse is the one they named. The best view of the effect is shown as well. So to answer some questions

How was the selected card selected or decided upon?

As stated any card is named.

How does he introduce the deck?

Mister Deck meet Audience, Audience meet Mister Deck. Sorry could not resist.

Where do you start with the deck?

Could be in the box or out of the box.

What does he do with the deck before the card is selected or after it is selected?

Nothing.

Is the deck shuffled?

You can borrow the deck. You can hand it out your deck and let someone shuffle them.

How many times does he have to run through the deck?

Once

It is run though right in front of people one time?

What you see in the video is exactly what it looks like.

Does he ever cut the deck?

No

Can it be instantly repeated?

Yes, you can do it again as stated it is a normal deck.

Can it be done SURROUNDED? Can you do it standing in the middle of a room with people in a complete circle around you, and above you and under you?

No, as stated above he gives you the best angle.

One thing, I do want to mention is that it will also take some time to get it to look as good as Alvo does it.

He also goes thru different ways of presenting the effect and gives tips as well.

There is a special guest on the dvd that shows another effect and teaches it.
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Cool...
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The revelation of the reversed card looks choppy and over handled in the demo. Invisible deck just spreads the cards out and there it is reversed. Is this really as smooth as invisible deck?
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It's a preference how you want to spread the cards. You can spread the cards as smooth as you want and you can still do the effect, it will just take more practice.
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If it looks choppy in the demo.....
dylan magic
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Thanks magico..thats great!
newb..thanks for nothing but attitude, maybe you should stick to penguin as magicians helping magicians doesn't appeal to you?.Smile.

cheers.
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Still - remember. You pay 30 USD to learn a single sleight! Although a great effect I stopped paying 30 USD for a single card sleight. I've seen one-trick-DVDs and stopped buying them, but this is essentially not a one-trick-dvd because most of us have the trick/effect already, this is only a one-sleight-DVD.

Let's get back to the good old days when a DVD had 6 great effects on them for a price of 35 USD. The way we come back to that situation is to refrain from purchasing "one-trick-DVD's"

Go purchase the orignal I´nvisible deck. The upside here is you don't have to practice, so you save a lot of time that you can invest in the presentation of the effect and save yourself 23 USD.

Sorry Alvo - your technique is brilliant - and the effect is classic. If you put it on 6-trick-dvd I would consider making a purchase.
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