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On 2009-07-05 22:33, tdowell wrote:
The revelation of the reversed card looks choppy and over handled in the demo. Invisible deck just spreads the cards out and there it is reversed. Is this really as smooth as invisible deck?


As pointed out by Newb2 you can spread the cards more smoothly and stil do the effect. Alvo points that out on the dvd. He normally spreads the cards as show in the video. I have purchased another effect of his and he spreads them the same in that effect.

Is this really as smooth as a invisible deck? My answer would be no.
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Looks cool.

I'll stick with the Invisible Deck.

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Do the cards have to be spread from the right hand to the left?
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On 2009-07-07 22:52, Bryan Swaringen wrote:
Do the cards have to be spread from the right hand to the left?


No, you can spread them from the left hand into the right hand.
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On 2009-07-03 20:38, Acecardician wrote:
The demo's don't show what it is. I hate when they do that. This could be great or completely bad. I tend to think it can't be that good, if they can not even show a performance of it.
I'd be carefull until I got a review by someone who has it.

ACE

Agree...i hate the demo video that dosn't show what it is....
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Do we have any owners that don't think this is worth the price? I guess I'd pay 30 dlls. for not having to switch my decks in the middle of a performance, and doing the invisible deck with any borrowed deck of cards. In the other hand, if it is not all that practical I would feel robbed. Is this so practical that I would use it all the time? Only if that's the case I'd buy this.
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Is anyone using it regularly in a professional show? If so, how is it playing?

ACE
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On 2009-07-09 00:43, Miraclemakers wrote:
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On 2009-07-03 20:38, Acecardician wrote:
The demo's don't show what it is. I hate when they do that. This could be great or completely bad. I tend to think it can't be that good, if they can not even show a performance of it.
I'd be carefull until I got a review by someone who has it.

ACE

Agree...i hate the demo video that dosn't show what it is....


What you see in the demo is exactly what happens. They name a card, you spread the deck and the card is reversed.
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I can hazard a darned good guess as to what is going on from the demo and I think my feel is, if it looks choppy for the creator, its going to take a fair bit of practice to get to something that I would do in preference to the ID.

Great skill though to achieve this with an ungimmicked deck.
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Ditto magico.

Received the Singularity DVD 2 days ago (pre-ordered). Simply put, it makes the gimmicked Invisible Deck (which I have always enjoyed) obsolete. After about 3 hours of practice, it's now second nature (and I'm new to magic, but not to performance). The bonus effect itself is worth the price of admission.

You knocked it out of the park again, Alvo.

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On 2009-07-05 14:00, magico wrote:
I just got this myself and can say that what you see in the video posted above is how the effect looks from start to finish. A card is named you go thru the deck and the only card reverse is the one they named. The best view of the effect is shown as well. So to answer some questions

How was the selected card selected or decided upon?

As stated any card is named.

How does he introduce the deck?

Mister Deck meet Audience, Audience meet Mister Deck. Sorry could not resist.

Where do you start with the deck?

Could be in the box or out of the box.

What does he do with the deck before the card is selected or after it is selected?

Nothing.

Is the deck shuffled?

You can borrow the deck. You can hand it out your deck and let someone shuffle them.

How many times does he have to run through the deck?

Once

It is run though right in front of people one time?

What you see in the video is exactly what it looks like.

Does he ever cut the deck?

No

Can it be instantly repeated?

Yes, you can do it again as stated it is a normal deck.

Can it be done SURROUNDED? Can you do it standing in the middle of a room with people in a complete circle around you, and above you and under you?

No, as stated above he gives you the best angle.

One thing, I do want to mention is that it will also take some time to get it to look as good as Alvo does it.

He also goes thru different ways of presenting the effect and gives tips as well.

There is a special guest on the dvd that shows another effect and teaches it.


Excellent summation. I mean that and I believe everything you say. But I do have one question.

Are angles a problem? Because if he's doing what I think he's doing, they have to be.
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Ok after all the posts I am convinced what I see is exactly what happens.
But he is only doing the climax of the effect. I think a better complete presentation would have sold this better.
Anyway. My question stands, is anyone who works a lot using this regularly and what are the spectators saying?
What RNadeau said has me very interested. It sounds like the first review of someone who actually mastered it. At my skill level I should be able to get it in one night. Tonight I worked a 2 hour walk around and did ID all night. I never once had anyone worry about having to give them the deck. And no one ever has decks to borrow. I do another opening with one deck, put in in my pocket and tell a joke, then go into the invisible and pull out the ID from the same pocket for the climax. Never ever had a problem. I'm inclined not to fix something that is not broken. And ID is so sure fire.
How sure fire is this? Under pressure, broad day light, with executives surrounding you? And can you do 2 cards? Tonight I had someone play along and say they saw the card and it was different than the one the person picked, so I showed them that one also, just for fun!

Thanks for all the help and feedback. I might just have to get this and see for myself. I wonder if Hocus Pocus has it?

ACE
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You're right. Most people don't carry around a deck of cards Smile, and deck switches are that simple. I echo your question though: Is anyone out there performing this successfully?, and how are the reactions compared to the ID? We might just need to be patient. Smile It would still be nice if this move was such a development in magic that made ID obsolete. Would spectators "feel" there's some unusual handling going on?
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While I'm not doubting RNadeau, I think it's safe to say that most people will not have this anywhere close to down in 2 hours. It's not that easy.
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On 2009-07-10 00:30, Acecardician wrote:
Ok after all the posts I am convinced what I see is exactly what happens.
But he is only doing the climax of the effect. I think a better complete presentation would have sold this better.
Anyway. My question stands, is anyone who works a lot using this regularly and what are the spectators saying?
What RNadeau said has me very interested. It sounds like the first review of someone who actually mastered it. At my skill level I should be able to get it in one night. Tonight I worked a 2 hour walk around and did ID all night. I never once had anyone worry about having to give them the deck. And no one ever has decks to borrow. I do another opening with one deck, put in in my pocket and tell a joke, then go into the invisible and pull out the ID from the same pocket for the climax. Never ever had a problem. I'm inclined not to fix something that is not broken. And ID is so sure fire.
How sure fire is this? Under pressure, broad day light, with executives surrounding you? And can you do 2 cards? Tonight I had someone play along and say they saw the card and it was different than the one the person picked, so I showed them that one also, just for fun!

Thanks for all the help and feedback. I might just have to get this and see for myself. I wonder if Hocus Pocus has it?

ACE


It's 100% surefire if you are confident in pulling off the sleight. Best angles are from the angle in the video or spectator looking down or close in front of you. Obviously there is a move you need to execute to get the card reversed. Not as angle friendly as the original, but that's pretty much all you sacrifice. With enough practice and at the proper angles, it looks exactly the same as the original.
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On 2009-07-09 22:38, RNadeau wrote:
Ditto magico.

Received the Singularity DVD 2 days ago (pre-ordered). Simply put, it makes the gimmicked Invisible Deck (which I have always enjoyed) obsolete. After about 3 hours of practice, it's now second nature (and I'm new to magic, but not to performance). The bonus effect itself is worth the price of admission.

You knocked it out of the park again, Alvo.

Congratulations!


It's ok with me if the sleight takes 20 or 40 hours as long as the effect is clean when performed.

One question though. Can you briefly describe the bonus effect - what's the magic that happens there?
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Bonus effect is taught by a special guest (whom I will not mention but he is a very well-known magician). It's pretty much a mem-deck trick. Keep in mind a mem-deck is not needed for Singularity, but the dvd does explore the topic a bit.
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From the trailer, I would expect the reactions to be similar to the traditional ID handling. The main advantage of Singularity seems to be that you don't need to carry a gaffed deck around or switch a new deck in or out.

But over the last twenty years or so, many variations have come out to the original ID handling to address the perception of the audience that you are simply turning over a card through slight of hand. The fact that so many magicians have sought to address this "deficiency" in the original handling suggests that it has been a problem for many -- lessening a sense of true magic into a demonstration of "fast hands." The ID allows you to show that the reversed card is different than the other visible cards, thereby negating slight of hand. Most of the people I see performing now do it this way. In short, the ID handing has evolved to a more impossible effect. But Singularity takes a step backward in the presentation.

So while Singularity might allow you to do something approaching the original ID handling, I still believe the ID would allow for a more impressive effect to most. If carrying the extra deck or switching it in is an issue, however, then Sigularity would seem to fill that need.
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And it should be mentioned that the bonus effect includes a stack that can be learned in literally a couple of minutes that will allow you to know the position of any card and the card at any position without any calculations and almost nothing that could be called "memory work" either. At first I thought it was a somewhat dumb idea that must have been "created" by numerous people since playing cards were invented. But the longer I sat on the idea, the more clever it seemed to me. And now I think it's pretty smart, which makes sense given the person who is presenting it (who is something of a legend in close-up magic).

It may seem self-serving for me to talk up this DVD considering I'm selling my copy in the for sale section. But I'm only selling it because I ordered it 6 months ago when it first came up for pre-order and I have since then implemented a policy of hanging on to only a handful of magic books and DVDs. And while I think the ideas on this DVD are very good, it's not something I personally will be putting my time into perfecting. (Not that I have to explain myself to you. Get off my back, punk.)

So this is a genuine endorsement (my integrity isn't worth much, but I value it slightly more than the $17 I'm selling this for). I think the invisible deck routine, variations, and the bonus routine on this DVD are well worth the $30, especially if you don't already have something similar with an ungimmicked deck in your arsenal.
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On 2009-07-10 00:30, Acecardician wrote:
Ok after all the posts I am convinced what I see is exactly what happens.
But he is only doing the climax of the effect. I think a better complete presentation would have sold this better.
Anyway. My question stands, is anyone who works a lot using this regularly and what are the spectators saying?
What RNadeau said has me very interested. It sounds like the first review of someone who actually mastered it. At my skill level I should be able to get it in one night. Tonight I worked a 2 hour walk around and did ID all night. I never once had anyone worry about having to give them the deck. And no one ever has decks to borrow. I do another opening with one deck, put in in my pocket and tell a joke, then go into the invisible and pull out the ID from the same pocket for the climax. Never ever had a problem. I'm inclined not to fix something that is not broken. And ID is so sure fire.
How sure fire is this? Under pressure, broad day light, with executives surrounding you? And can you do 2 cards? Tonight I had someone play along and say they saw the card and it was different than the one the person picked, so I showed them that one also, just for fun!

Thanks for all the help and feedback. I might just have to get this and see for myself. I wonder if Hocus Pocus has it?

ACE



ACE, the angles are a little tricky. Using a slight variation of Alvo's technique, I was able to get the reverse down in about 3 hours (newb2, there is always room for improvement. I'm no different.) The move is one thing; the angles another. They can be tricky. That definitely requires more work.

What I really like about Singularity over the gimmicked ID deck (and don't get me wrong, I have a lot of fun with the gimmicked ID and good reactions) is that I can borrow a deck from anyone or hand out my deck for thorough inspection before going into the routine (Richard Osterlind's "Cancellation Principle".

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