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rowdymagi5
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Not sure if this is the right forum to post this!

Does anyone have a good source for a jacket with tails, that would be suitable for kids shows?

Also looking for a decent top hat.

Thanks
Dr. Hoodwink
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If I might make a recommendation re: Top Hat.

I have been very pleased with the heavyweight black wool topper from Brian Dube (dube.com, I think). The hat is a bit pricey, somewhere in the neighborhood of $80.00US, but it is durable. I use mine for various small feats & flourishes of jugglery with no damage.

It also lends a rather sartorial flair to my steampunk-themed garb.

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Magic_streak
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Send an email to Peter Whiteman from Magicproshop.com. He carries a very nice and durable collaspeable top hat at a great price. I got mine from him too.

As for the suits, check out your local tailors and see what they have to offer. You may also try shops who tailor for ladies, they are better at special designs and selective materials. For kids' show, it is better to wear bright colours like red, yellow or sky blue. I have a starry shiny coat that I use for kids. If you want an all purpose wear, a decent simple black or grey suit will do. The tails are up to you. Most importantly, look neat and smart for all your shows.
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There is a place on the net called Al's Tuxedo rentals or something like that...not too hard to find. I purchased 3 red tail coats from them for $20 each. They also have an assortment and variety of shiny bright colored vests.
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Kent Wong
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Go to your local tuxedo rental shop. They often sell off their previous rentals at drastically reduced prices.

For top hats, go to a good halloween rental shop. They too will often sell of some of their older stock.

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chris mcbrien
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Don't forget resale shops and antique clothing shops, sometimes you can find outstanding deals! One place you could find these items is "Trash Can Annie's" in Davenport, IA. She's (the owner) a great lady to work with and you can tell her your budget and she'll always find what you need.
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Do you really want to mimic the cliche' magician's attire?
Top Hat and Tails....Boring!!!!! Just be yourself and find what "Suits" (pun intended) you? If not then good luck
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I have purchased almost all of my working attire from thrift stores
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Dennis Michael
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Devious,

Top hat and tails is the children's concept of a classic magician, even a cape if one desires. When doing kids shows, this is one character style that is "in fashion". This may not be for everyone, but it is a character role being played out by the magician.

Sure I could do a suit and tie or fancy clothes, but has a kid ever saw a "Real Magician", which I've been called so many times and it is the best compliment I can get.
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"Do you really want to mimic the cliche' magician's attire?
Top Hat and Tails....Boring!!!!!"

Boring to adults or no, children expect a magician to look like their storybook perception of a magician. That usually means: 1) Top hat & tux; 2) Turban and tux or; 3) Wizard garb.

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Dennis Michael
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Wow.. Steve, you and I posted exactly at the same time saying basically the same thing.
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Devious & Mister illusion
If you want peoples respect you can't just "be yourself", or buy hobo clothes at the thrift shop. At a party, or on stage you must be both distinctive and impeccable, that's what is expected of you if you charge BIG BUCKS for your show. Of course if you work for free you can just "be yourself", and wear flip flops, shorts, and a T shirt, or even better you can really just be yourself if you get a job at a nudist camp.
LOOK LIKE A PROFESSIONAL
Al

I disagree slightly with Dr. Stephen Midnight, and Dennis you don't absolutely need a top hat, tails, and a cape to do magic. All I ask is that you be the best dressed man in the house. When strange women start to smile at you, touch you, and complement you on your clothing you can be sure that no matter what happens to you on stage you have fans in the audience.
Al

PS even when performing at a nudist camp wear a tie.
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magic4u02
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Al:

hehehe hey the tie goes with the whole nudist look and ya can prove nothing up the sleeves. hehe Any ways, I agree. I think you absolutely need to look professional as much as you can. You do need to stand out, look great but also wear something that matches your own style.

I do not think a tux and tails and top hat is for everyone if your style does not reflect that. However, find what works best for you and make sure that what you do find out to work, is suited for the show and does make you stand out from the rest.

Here is a question though for folks who do outdoor shows as much as a lot of us do like Al here. Can you and is it alright to change your dress attire when you are performing outdoors in heat like I had to attend to today where it was 93 and high humidity? Is it ok to switch your attire (still looking professional though) and maybe go from a black pants to black dress shorts. From a long sleeve shirt to a short sleeve one?

What are others opinions on this and how do you handle the heat and clothing problem if you are working outdoors a lot.

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Kyle
If it is's a swim party I will ask the host, or hostess for permission to wear a straw hat, sun glasses, Hawaiian shirt, white pants, and white buck shoes, but then Kyle my legs are probibly not as attractive as yours. No matter what the venue is I like to be distinctive. I firmly believe that when a pay check is involved you should error on the side of caution. Maybe it's my 12 years of Catholic schooling that made me like this.
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Oh I certainly agree with you there. I am just wondering if there is a way to stay cool but still being professional in your attire that you are wearing. In other words, instead of long tuc pants, you could wear black tux shorts instead. Or maybe instead of a full length sleeve shirt, you wear a lighter weight short sleeved one. I think there are ways to keep yourself cool while still mainting a professional look.

And no m,y legs are not all that great either. hehehe Mine are way too white. lol

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I think it is okay to look unprofessional if your character is that way. One of my friends in the business does a GREAT Country hick type character that looks mor unprofessional than that of any person I have EVER seen in my LIFE!

But that is his character. Professionalism comes from the moment, the mouth and the brain. You can tell how professional somebody is simply by talking to them. (of course there is the automatic "The 7 seconds somebody sees you, they have already decided how professional you are" rule) but a good enough client would base your professionalism on the way you act and talk as oppose to the way you look.
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Al Angello
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Distinctive is the oprative word here. I will never wear shorts on a job. There is nothing wrong with shorts, but they are not for me.
I will never dress like a clown.
I will never dress like a woman.
I will never make balloon animals.
I will never paint faces.
I am one of the silliest guys around, and I would probibly be willing to do practically anything else.
Al
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magic4u02
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That is true that you have to do what is right for you. The only reason I brought it up was the fact that it was just so hot and humid at this outdoor gig I was doing today, that I was really suffering from it. I was just thinking of alternatives to keep myself cool while still maintaining a professional look that I strive for. Thanks all.

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The classic Magician is one character of many, it is not a requirement for a children entertainer. Lots of great colorful outfits can be found at a zoot suit store. Kyle has a bright red jacket, which I like, Al weres a red shirt which I like.

Choose the outfit you want and feel comfortable performing in. My Tux may not be suitable for a Soppk show magician, unless I am the Count.
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I dress two different ways, mostly one way..since I do mostly children's shows. When I do the mystery show, I dress to the hilt! At kid's shows, I'm dressed in top-notch dress shoes, black dress pants, belt and quality black shirt (a pullover, no turtlencks (itchy!). I also wear my robe. I have found that by dressing this way I look very professional and I don't overheat on stage. Of course for the mystery show I don't wear the robe, so I dress in my antique suit and tie with spiffy hat.
Basically, I agree with the fact you need to be the best dressed and groomed guy in the house, and carry yourself that way physically as well (not arrogantly, elegantly!).
Be the performer they talk about for years! (and hire you every year!).
So if we all walked in a room it would be like the "rat pack" of magic?
:)
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