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funsway Eternal Order old things in new ways - new things in old ways 10015 Posts |
I can't properly comment on the Wong coin (never seen one), but know that the number of effects available for the TUC is far greater -- and growing.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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Mr. Tango Elite user Argentina 465 Posts |
360, you can perform that effect with only one TUC and 3 regular coins
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Kennard New user Singapore 60 Posts |
Hmmm... Seems like I'll be getting the TUC then and it's cheaper too
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Vthegreatone New user Bowie, Maryland 57 Posts |
How many TUC does a magician need to buy to feel complete. It sounds pretty nifty from all the reviews, but I want a realistic price for a complete set. I know it's not hopping halves, but clearly, these hits on this device sounds legit.
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts |
Well I guess one only needs one coin or one set of coins
to do the job.but I use and collect coin sets. my favorites to collect are shell sets [all of them] cbs sets - hopping half sets and of course tucs. I also love the johnny wong coins too. todd |
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Vthegreatone New user Bowie, Maryland 57 Posts |
Thanks much Bowers
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BanzaiMagic Inner circle 1339 Posts |
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On 2012-08-02 13:16, Vthegreatone wrote: To some extent, the answer depends on what you use normally and what you will be using the gaff for. Some Magicians use only Silver coins (Morgans, Walking Liberty halves). If so, that's the one you want to get. If you are performing in front of a significantly sized audience, the larger the coin the better. Figure out the use first, then buy the gaff. Remember, unless you are a collector like Bower, less is more with gaffs. Do yourself a favor and focus on sleights first and strive to make ringing in a gaff rare in your set. As Dave Neighbors always says, only use a gaff when you really want to blow their socks off, the rest should be slights. Alan |
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Kennard New user Singapore 60 Posts |
Just to confirm, so when using the TUC I should be able to confidently move the coin around, show the edges, flip, toss and just handle it like a single unit without any fear of it coming apart unless I intentionally want it to?
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts |
Yes that is true 360 I handle mine just like a regular coin.
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funsway Eternal Order old things in new ways - new things in old ways 10015 Posts |
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On 2012-08-04 08:32, 360 wrote: I loaned one of my TUC's to a fellow magician nearby -- which he immediately lost amongst some other coins and it took him days to discover which was the TUC. He said, "I am not sure what is so special about this coin." I am still chuckling. My intitial attraction to the TUC was that I could perform some of my Sway Moves that require a physical tossing of the coin from one hand to the other. Most other gaffs don't allow this.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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Kennard New user Singapore 60 Posts |
Hmmm.. If its that convincing then I think it's worth checking out.
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Daniel Clemente Special user Mount Joy, PA 790 Posts |
It's an awesome coin. Coins across looks great!!
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
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On 2012-08-07 07:21, funsway wrote: Really? I can physically toss just about any gaffed coin I own from one hand to the other cleanly. (Mentally too!!) Seriously, though: which gaffed coins can't you toss hand to hand cleanly Ken? I'm curious as to what kind of problem you're having. Thank you. Jim |
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funsway Eternal Order old things in new ways - new things in old ways 10015 Posts |
Just using an Exp Sh**l mostly -- sometimes CSB. I tried a Fl***r but couldn't control it.
Some of it is a confidence thing, I can perform a sleight ten times with no problem -- then suddenly cramp up or not be able to feel where the coin is in my hand. Dropping any gaff coin is not kool -- so, I quit using Gaffs an focused on simpler things and almost quit doing coin effects. MB chnaged that and then tim joined in -- working with me on alternative moves. Then a TUC appeared for sale on the Café' and I took a chance. Suddenly I could do all sorts of effects that I ustacould. I didn't clarify -- I need to Toss the coin undetected during normal hand motions. Since eye contact is elsewhere I need the confidence that the entire coin will arrive in one piece and my being able to transfer into various Palm positions.
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts |
I can toss it to the other hand but not all the time.
and sometimes when it hits the other hand the shell will bounch off of the inner coin.with my tuc it stays on every time.and will unlock in a second when I want it too. but I still love my shell also.they both have their place in magic. as does the flipper slippery sam and c/s coins. todd |
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J-Mac Inner circle Ridley Park, PA 5338 Posts |
Most shell sets by Lassen or Schoolcraft will stay together easily without any worries due to the way they are gaffed. Flippers? Never had a problem tossing them; flippers will stay closed unless you drop it. Copper/Silver? Split coins? Most gaffs I own are easily tossed.
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funsway Eternal Order old things in new ways - new things in old ways 10015 Posts |
I am sure you are correct. I just never had any of these, nor any motivation to get them. For fifty years my only gaffs were a Hooked Coin. An EXP [ and a C/S. I was happily ignorant of the possibilities of other gaffs. My focus was always "small object" magic and coins were just one of many 'found objects" to perform with. I performed the same effects with stones, nuts, candy kisses or coins. Not much need for gaffs. My excitement was creating new moves and sleights for one-on-one presentations of magic in settings "other than entertainment." In 2007 I finally got a copy of BoBo's and discovered that many of these moves had names. Others did not and may be "truly original" with me. Unfortunately, arthritus became more real than any desire to perform coin magic.
The TUC and some mentoring help changed that. Some other quality gaff might have done the same. There was a lot of excitement over the TUC but no one seemed to be creating any new effects -- just using the ones that came with the DVD. I created six new ones (different ones) and sent them to Marcelo. The rest is history. Current count of new TUC effects is 43. I still create new effects using the TUC but am less inspired since there is so little feedback on existing effects. If I ever get a ShimSlip I may get busy again. For now I am rebuilding a home to take better care of my aging Dad -- a different magic. I can still hold a hammer if not a coin. But the mind never rests ...
"the more one pretends at magic, the more awe and wonder will be found in real life." Arnold Furst
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Mr. Tango Elite user Argentina 465 Posts |
Oh my god 94.000 views !! We have to get the 100.000 !
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Kennard New user Singapore 60 Posts |
Ha Mr Tango I'm sure we'll get there
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Kennard New user Singapore 60 Posts |
Oh finally made my decision, going to put down an order for this soon... Looking forward to getting it!
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