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jhereg
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Is wooly nylon thread stretchy enough for tying loops?
skc417
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Nope it doesn't, not enough elasticity in it.
You can still tie them into loops for some effects you just can't get too far away from it.
jhereg
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Thank you.
Sanderr
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I think there is almost no elasticity in it...
nonvpro
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Correct, almost none. I use it with Kevin James' "Spooler".
lou serrano
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The Spooler isn't Kevin James'. It was created by Jonathan Matthews and Bill Elgin to be used with Kevin's techniques. The Spooler is also no longer manufactured.

All of the wooly nylon I've come across is actually too thin to be used with the Spooler. It breaks before you can get through the routine. I'm not sure what kind of thread Kevin uses, but if it's wooly nylon, I'd love to know who manufactured it.

Respectfully,

Lou Serrano
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Kevin James did a lecture in Fort Wayne last Monday august 22, 2011. His explanation for finding his thread was as follows. He said, he was in Los Angeles, California, and went to the garment district. Found a garment company and ask if he could go through their thread supply. Then he started testing and stripping hundreds of threads until he found what he was looking for in a thread. He then purchased a huge supply.

He did not give the name of the thread or the manufacturer.
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On 2011-08-25 06:26, wmhegbli wrote:
He did not give the name of the thread or the manufacturer.


Even some secrets must be kept - at least while there is still money to be made!
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WN is too brittle for loops and has no stretch.

Bulky nylon has a *slight* elasticity to it, but not by much.
Kevlar/Spectra are about the same as WN.
Vectra has a tiny tiny bit, but again, not much.

Get Fearson's EVE if you want EIT. Best stuff out there- strong and strippable for various applications.
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RS1963
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Or save yourself the time and just buy loops.
MitchellMac
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No but here's some easy elastic thread. Get some sort of elastic sock like a panty hose or a stocking. Take out one of the elastic bands in the fabric and you can strip that. Then tie it together and you have loops!
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Stripping elastic thread from hose by hand is possible -- but it is too time consuming.

My advice is to do yourself a favor and buy a quantity of EIT from a dealer. (You'll thank yourself -- honest.)

Even if you value your free time at minumum wage, the price off-set does not justify stripping your own thread vs. purchasing EIT.

You'll have more time for practicing and performing with EIT of consistent quality and you'll achieve consistent results.
MagicPro17
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This is the best EIT I've found, Infinityv2 http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S12772
Sir Richard
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David Regal gave me this site for use in one of his effects: http://www.wizardcraft.com/thread_magic.htm You'll need to scroll down the page!

Sir Richard.
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On 2011-10-08 17:06, Magiguy wrote:
The best I have found:
http://www.subdividedstudios.com/legacy.html

I agree, no need to look any further.
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him".
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MagicPro17
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I was just on Yigal Mesika's facebook and saw this about the fake loops:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=582355123
RS1963
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On 2011-10-11 22:43, MagicPro17 wrote:
I was just on Yigal Mesika's facebook and saw this about the fake loops:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=582355123


That's Ellusionist for you. I'm really surprised that M.M. didn't beat them to doing that first however.
MagicPro17
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I heard a lot of bad comments about E before, now I can see the whole picture. This situation isn't right and I don't think I will go to their website anymore.
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Oh, man. This disappoints me! I'm sure I don't have the whole story. Ellusionist is in my top 5 places to shop for magic! They have always been lightning fast shipping, and I have never been disappointed in ANY of their products. Brad Christian has answered every one of my questions, and frankly, they have stuff I cannot find anywhere else at ANY price!

I hate it when I see stuff like this. There has to more to the story...

Doug
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