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Paul Inner circle A good lecturer at your service! 4409 Posts |
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On 2009-07-14 18:00, DDecae wrote: Why? Ever here of Cameron or Doc Shiels? |
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TC Ryder Elite user Florida 496 Posts |
Has anyhone heard of MUTANZ by Paul Farmer and Roy Walton? I have never seen it done but the effect looks interesting. I would love to see a video of it if anyone has found one out there. If looks pretty Bizarre.
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Paul Inner circle A good lecturer at your service! 4409 Posts |
It's BOB Farmer's reworking of Roy's "Cascade effect. Great packet trick, still available. Again, it's a card trick, has a strange ending, perfect for strolling magicians. But making cards turn up and down is hardly something you'd expect a magician who specializes in bizarre magic to do.
You should check out books by Tony Shiels, Charles Cameron, Christian Chelman (above)etc. to get a better understanding of what bizarre is all about, my friend. Here's a link to check out: http://www.blackhart.co.uk/page53.html Paul. |
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TC Ryder Elite user Florida 496 Posts |
Now that is bizarre. Thanks for the tip Paul.
TC |
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waltsal Loyal user 278 Posts |
Paul--my opinions on your books are obviously shared by many others at the Café. It is refreshing to read a magic book that has more than one good effect with a few variations.
As far as bizarre magic is concerned, I agree wholeheartedly that the bizarre purist would not normally be thinking about packet card tricks any more than the card purist would use packet tricks when he could do the same thing with a bit of finger flicking. (Nonetheless every well-known card man at some point seems to put out his own packet effect or includes gaffed card effects in his lecture notes or books. As you point out in Small But Deadly,and as every magician knows from personal experience, packet effects and card gaffs can be devastating.) But that argument is not behind my interest in the subject of bizarre packet tricks. I leave that argument for another thread. My curiosity was peaked when I read Small But Deadly. The section on bizarre packet effects was the smallest in the book and I wondered just how many bizarre packets were on the market. It seems that most of them --such as Card of Nosferatu by Tony Chris or Witch-Finder by Mark Townsend, and so on--are being produced in Europe. Card Shark in Germany, for instance. Most packet effects seem to be gaffed Bicycles. At least these days. In the 1960's many more seemed to be specially printed cards, such as Color Monte, Leprechauns and so on. Judging from the responses to this thread, your survey was correct-- there are some bizarre packet effects, but they are relatively scarce. |
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sleightofand Regular user London, UK 188 Posts |
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waltsal Loyal user 278 Posts |
Thanks, Andy. Makes me want to visit London again.--
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nachotuoni New user Ecuador 59 Posts |
Check out http://www.outlaw-effects.com/store/
Que viva la magia!! |
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atucci Veteran user Middleburg, Florida 381 Posts |
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On 2009-07-14 09:11, elgranmago wrote: Max Maven had a variation of this effect using the same principle in Genii last year(?) called Electile-dysfunction. While it may be more off-beat than bizarre it may prompt you to brainstorm the possibilities. Good luck
Tony Tuccillo
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Tony Chris V.I.P. Vancouver, Canada 714 Posts |
Hey guys,
I just noticed this thread. I appreciate the mentioning of my bizarre effects, the Card of Nosferatu and The Crossroads. Both of which I released last year. Although I had my cards custom made for me in Europe, both effects are available here in North America. They are North American Magic Releases as I live in Canada. Here are the links to the demo trailers. I still have lots in stock. The Crossroads. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwQ-QTXl8CE The Card of Nosferatu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_BPHnty8xo Regards, Tony Chris
As magicians we create what onlookers call magic. If they truly believe in what we have created for them to witness then magic is real!!!
- TONY CHRIS, A.K.A. Zany Zack http://www.tonychris.com |
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waltsal Loyal user 278 Posts |
Tony-- I am now an owner of the Card of Nosaferatu and it is truly a bizarre effect. Love the cards; good directions. I am happy to see some of these coming , finally, to North America. As one of the most the most bizarre continents, we should accordingly have more bizarre magic effects.
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Tony Chris V.I.P. Vancouver, Canada 714 Posts |
Hi Waltsal,
Thanks brother, I appreciate it. I know you will rock the house with it. Tony
As magicians we create what onlookers call magic. If they truly believe in what we have created for them to witness then magic is real!!!
- TONY CHRIS, A.K.A. Zany Zack http://www.tonychris.com |
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vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
Scott Grossberg's Deck Of Shadows, just released
check out my web site vinnymarini.com vinny |
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Zach Lambert New user 81 Posts |
Anything Eugene Burger puts out is bizarre.. I would suggest checking out his Bw'ave packet trick.. ( I think that's how it is spelled)
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Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
All wonderful suggestions here, but, I would ALSO suggest thinking outside your comfort zone. In other words: PRESENTATION There are thousands of "standard" effects that can easily be adapted to to this subgenre of magic. I posted in the thread about Br. Hamman's Two Card Trick that is lends itself particularly well to a bizarre themed effect with the simple substitution of Tarot cards (or the Gypsy Deck for that matter) and an appropriate story.
Gerald Kosky's To Tell the Truth found in Apocalypse along with its variants - especially Banachek's - is especially strong again with appropriate props and presentation. Yes, this is NOT a card effect, but, I wanted to provide another example outside the comfort zone. Finally, and I know such luminaries as Bill Palmer might take issue with my assertion, but, bizarre magick can be found in sources FAR older than Andruzzi, et.al. Peruse The Jinx for instance. Annemann was doing this stuff LONG before Invocation and the general movement of bizarre magick that surfaced 30 odd years ago. Please do not make a judgment of what can or cannot be "bizarre" merely by the effect's title. If you do that, you are missing a TON of resources you undoubtedly already have. Ahimsa, Vlad |
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martydoesmagic Inner circle Essex, UK 1665 Posts |
I agree with Zack that Eugene Burger is a good source of inspiration if you like Bizarre Magick (Eugene Goes Bizzaree might be a good place to start). However, some of the material he releases is not bizarre, e.g. his effect "Thought Sender" does not come with a bizarre presentation.
On another note, although Eugene Burger performs B'wave (he considers it the best packet trick in existence) the effect belongs to his good friend Phil Goldstien (AKA Max Maven). HTH, Marty |
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Phil J. Elite user 467 Posts |
The book 'Life, Death and Other Card Tricks' by Robert E. Neale has some bizarre stuff. This from the advert-
Quote: In Robert E. Neale's world, "Twisting the Aces" isn't just a demonstration of cards turning magically face up. It's a humorous contest between Samurai warriors and flies. When cards are eliminated and chosen, the result isn't just a successful prediction. It's a game of life and death. When the cards of a poker hand multiply, vanish and change, they do so not in a magician's hands, but in those of W. C. Fields. When a card vanishes and reappears, it isn't just a display of skill. It's a quick trip between dream and reality. And when a spectator's selection disappears from the deck, he isn't just surprised, he's made immortal. This, then, is the world of Robert E. Neale. It is a different world than you are used to, and it will take you and your audiences to places you've never been before — especially with a deck of cards. Over 60 presentations using normal playing cards
You were born original... Don't die a copy
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shaneking New user Sydney, Australia 61 Posts |
You could try the "army of 52" gaffed deck from ellusionists. There are many spooky cards in here. E.g there is a coffin on one card and another identical card with a a small playing card on it. Many others too. Worth a look.
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waltsal Loyal user 278 Posts |
The Karnival deck also has a bizarrist type design. And , of course, you can use patter to make almost any effect a piece of bizarre magic. But my original question was about the availability of bizarre packet tricks-- that is, packet tricks specifically with a bizarrist twist. There seem to be few, at least in the US. Bizarre magic and effects that go with it are more readily available in Europe. But if you come across any, please let me know.
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Demonbrn Veteran user Oakley, CA 338 Posts |
Dan Sperry's Crimson deck also has a bizarrist look, his next one Silly Rabbit should be gold as well (Actually made a gaff with a couple of the advertisment cards!).
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