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dfeder
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I'm looking to do a 5 card poker routine using the Janus card and am looking for ideas. I know of course that the person getting the card will lose the hand - but I want to be able to have the spectator deal the cards (that one is easy), have an opportunity to look at the cards and take the ones he/she wants, give me some of their cards and take some from my hand.....you get the idea.

Is there anything out there that you can recommend my reading?

Dov
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I don't know what the Janus card is/means, but what you describe makes me think of Luke Jermay's "10 Card Poker Deal":

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=1598
My English sucks, I know it. It's probably better than your French anyway...
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Thanks bikoz. That's exactly what I was looking for. And I goofed (but only a little). It is called the Jonah card (not the Janus card) and is also referenced in Simon Aronsons book on his marked deck (cards from 29 through 39 will work for the 10 card poker deal). I also recently learned that Aldo Columbini has a 10 card poker deal effect available on dvd.

It's a great routine - thanks for the reply.

Dov
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Darwin Ortiz' at the Card Table also has a 10-card poker deal.
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The ten card poker deal with a Jonah card is a very old idea. It appears in print and on DVDs in many locations. Many folks, as mentioned above, have added some wrinkles to the basic premise. If you are interested in this concept, I highly recommend Nick Trost's "Showdown" which was marketed as a stand-alone effect and also is explained in his book: The Card Magic of Nick Trost. The final phase of this routine is just incredible. After the hands have been dealt, and just before they are turned up to reveal the winner, you give the spectator the opportunity to exchange his hand for yours. If he does... he loses. If he doesn't... he loses. And there is NO sleight of hand.

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Thanks Dennis. I know that book was out of print for a while. Do you happen to know if is back in circulation? I know Nick has another book called "gambling tricks with cards" as well as "mental card miracles."

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Dennis,

Based on your recommendation (and after viewing an entire thread about Nick's book here on the Café) I went ahead and purchased it from Mad Hatter.

Thanks again for the reply,

Dov
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The Card Magic of Nick Trost is back in print. Here's a link to one place you can get it:
https://loomismagic.com/item16005.htm

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Just got Nick Trost's book and have to agree with you - there's lots of great stuff in it. As for the 10 card poker deal - well, I didn't see any real difference with his than with Aldo Columbini's or Luke Jermay's version. None the less - there really is some really good information in the book.


Dov
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My version, "The World's WORST Card Player," is available as an instant download from my website, about halfway down this page:
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Thanks for the reply Scott. You have some really good ideas and I have read a lot of your stuff.

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Scott,

Didn't you do a sponge ball routine with peanut butter and jelly? I use it all the time - think it's great!

Dov
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Dov:

Do you have references for the Columbini and Jermay routines? I'd apprecaite them if you do. Thank you.
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The Aldo Colombini 10 Card Poker Deal is the best in my opinion hands down. There are 5 phases and each gets stronger. It ends with the performer writing a prediction, the spectator shuffling, and the performer winning with the cards located in the exact positions on the prediction. It's REALLY REALLY good and a SOLID worker. Aldo's routine has a phase similar to what you say. You show the person every card and the spectator decides if he gets it or if the performer gets the card.
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On 2009-07-27 20:24, dfeder wrote:
Scott,

Didn't you do a sponge ball routine with peanut butter and jelly? I use it all the time - think it's great!

Dov


Yes--and thanks!
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To dfeder,
You didn't see any difference? Are you reading the Showdown routine? It's the only routine in the world that allows the spectator to choose either hand after the cards and dealt, and he loses no matter which he chooses.
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Thanks for pointing that out Dennis. For some reason I didn't see that. It eluded me - like magic.

I'll revisit Nick's book.

Dov
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Maybe just simply switch the 5 cards in your hand that would have been easier!!!
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On 2009-07-16 11:35, S2000magician wrote:
Darwin Ortiz' at the Card Table also has a 10-card poker deal.


and, IMHO, it's one of the best of any other that I know, but it's not the effect where I'm the most knowledgeable. I need for example to recheck Aldo's routine.

The best presentation was however without contest Gary Ouellet's one in The Greater Magic Video Library Magic from Canada vol 2.

I find Luke Jermay's being repetitive technically.
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