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Andrew Zuber
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I've been focusing so much on my stage act that I've been neglecting my close up work and would love to get back into it.
Can anyone give suggestions for good chop cups as well as any recommendations for DVDs to help me in this area? I've never worked with a chop cup before...it's gimmicked in some way though, correct?
Thanks for any advice you might have!
Andrew
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For your first chop cup, the actual cup is not as important as you might think. The Morrissey cups are good first cups.

Once you have developed a routine and figured out what you want to do with it, then go for one of the better chop cups -- RnT II, Riser, Sherwood, etc.
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The Ron Wilson/Larry Jennings routine is as good as it gets.
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Thanks for the ideas!
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Also, check out the immense number of chop cups from the past and present at http://www.cupsandballsmuseum.com .

You will need a username and password. Just follow the instructions on the first page, and the curator will send you a username and password within 24 hours.
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I've browsed the site very briefly before but never really delved into it, so I will check it out. It's a very cool idea!
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Practically any cup will work, it's the routine that makes it. Check Ron Wilson's in his book, "The Uncanny Scot" - he makes his from a paper coffee cup.

Not a chop cup, but well worth study:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ic9qpdN478
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L & L's DVD of The Chop Cup features routines by Davis Regal, John Mendoza, Gary Ouellet, Danny Tong, Steve Dacri, Jim Swain, and Larry Jennings. Just remember, however, that the cup doesn't HAVE to looks like a magician's prop.
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There is a version you can get from Jedinat Zaubershop called Kaffee-Wette. It works with just about ANY coffee mug.

It's very slick. The instructions are German, but once you see the gaff, you will understand intuitively how it works.

Also, get the Ron Bauer book about Don Alan's Chop Cup routine. If you can't find one, let me know. I may have an extra copy around. I think I may have Don's DVD, as well.
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Bill,

Do you have website information on Jedinat Zaubershop?

Perhaps an English version, even?

KG
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Andrew,

I'll second http://www.cupsandballsmuseum.com/ too. The curator is a great guy, although I am surprised he hasn't kicked me out as I spend far too much time in there....

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On 2009-07-18 16:53, kentfgunn wrote:
Bill,

Do you have website information on Jedinat Zaubershop?

Perhaps an English version, even?

KG


Hi Kent -

Here's a link to Jedinat Zaubershop's effect that Bill mentioned above:

http://www.jedinat-zaubershop.de/shop/sh......1802.htm

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Andrew Zuber
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Thanks for all of the info! I went down to Hollywood Magic today and picked up a silver cup that looks roughly like what Jim Swain uses in his routine that I caught on YouTube in an L&L video segment. Large enough to take a baseball as a final load.
Now to work on a good routine for it!

Posted: Jul 18, 2009 11:49pm
So I've been working with the chop cup since I got home (I know, it's only been a few hours) and my problem is that in order to get the ball to come out I need to basically slam the cup down onto my close up pad to make it happen. It seems like it's completely obvious when I'm doing it because I have to put the cup down so hard it makes it look like I'm angry or something.
Any ideas on how to fix that?
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Do a search in the Secret Sessions section. There is a lot on chop cups gaffs and balls there...
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This thread will help:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=37

This thread will help with adjustments:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=37 The info you need is near the bottom of the thread.
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Thanks for the advice! Clearly I'm new to how these babies work.
The tips were certainly helpful in making the magic happen. Now to figure out how to get the thing to wind up in a shot glass...that's only working about 5% of the time Smile
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I don't like using the shot glass, it makes for too much to carry.
It also seems a bit extraneous too.
Just my opinion though.
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I'm still playing around with the idea. I'm not too concerned about carrying it around since I have plenty of space in my case and I like having a few different options.
Coincidentally it's a London Underground shot glass...my girlfriend went to Uni in Leeds. I spent quite a bit of time there!
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Too much to carry? The shot glass goes inside the cup.
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