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One of the effects I perform is a signed silk into pepper routine. It's a fantastic trick, although I'd really like to update my vanish. I'm currently doing a classic TT vanish. It would be great if I could find an updated silk vanish that uses a TT. However, another thought I had was to use a dye tube to switch out the signed silk for a blank one, then put the silk in the glass (the audience should think it's the signed one at this point) and do a vanish with a pull. However, I haven't worked much with either of these gimmicks yet. Is it possible to "wear" a dye tube? Does anyone have any other thoughts on the matter? Help is appreciated.
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You know that a dye tube can also be hooked up as a pull.

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That is what I have done. Smile

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Would it be easy to retrieve quickly? I'm still going to need that silk not too long after the vanish. Are you talking about using the dye tube with the pull to make the signed silk disappear, or switching the signed silk out using the pull to clean up?
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Where can we find the information about 'making' a pull from the dye tube. Is it somewhere written?

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You don't want a pull for this task. A pull goes one way. You want two-way action, so you want a holdout. You'll find one described in the e-Book "Tricky Tricks and Treats" in The Wizards' Journal #10 on my site. If you need help adapting the information to your specific requirement, you can e-mail me.
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If the guy is using a TT to vanish the signed silk, he can merely keep that silk in the tip. Insert the tip in the pepper shaker to retrieve the same signed silk.
Now, you can do a simple switch by having a blank duplicate silk in the same hand as the TT. Vanish the signed silk, but still have a silk in the hand. This would then allow you to vanish that switched silk in any device you wish. The extra byplay would seem to separate the action from any possibility of having that silk near the pepper. However, except for extending the effect, I feel that a TT vanish would be the better way to keep it simple.
Sometimes, simpler is better.
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I produced an effect called "Pepsilkola" (4 stars in Genii), where a vanished silk winds up in a mini pepsi bottle (a salt shaker). It wasn't a signed silk, but the premise is close (different method). In my case, you force one of several colored silks, and that silk is then vanished. The Pepsi bottle has been covered by a cloth after having it being showed empty. The forced color is found to appear in that bottle. (this method saves you from signing silks).
http://www.tricks.ws look for Pepsilkola link.

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http://magicians.podbean.com/pepsilkola/
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I hadn't though of Pepsilkola in years. I guess I have had one of these for more than thirty years...
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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On 2009-07-20 09:10, ClintonMagus wrote:
I hadn't though of Pepsilkola in years. I guess I have had one of these for more than thirty years...

You dated us both, I think it was 1978 or so when I thought of it.
I only have 12 bottles left, (the bottles sell as collectibles on Ebay for $15 a pair). my next version of the same effect was with Pepper shakers, so I will call it PEPsilkola instead of PEPSIlkola.
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Ian, can the spectator remove the silk from the bottle/pepper shaker?

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Oddly enough, no-one ever went for it or even asked to see the silk in the bottle. It just never occurs to the spectator. Even magicians to whom I primarily demoed the item.
The silk is inside a capped bottle, and a cloth is over it, and the trick is out of hand and over as far as the audience is concerned.
Now, if they venture to take the silk out, the mouth of the bottle is so small, and the silk is recessed at that point, that you can pick at the silk, but not ever touch it. If you had a tweezers or maybe a pen tip, you could reach it.
In order for me to get it out, I have to hit the bottle like a ketchup bottle and the silk moves enough to remove it.

Hey, I ain't new on the planet, the tricks success was based on control and having been well thought out.
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I hope you didn't take the question the wrong way Smile

I was thinking about initialing the silk before the vanish & have the spectator pull it out.


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I wonder if that is all that important, and once again..deface a silk?
There are easier methods and objects to use. Back to the classic TT, after the vanish and the object (silk) appears in the salt shaker, you can merely make a fist around the shaker and put the TT alongside the mouth of the bottle. The impact came when the silk arrives. The kicker could then be the signature.

A signed dollar wouldn't even require a TT, just do a bill vanish, and insert the bill in the bottle as you cover it.
Then show the bill has vanished.
The actual bill is then in the bottle. But that's too simple.

Proof is not always entertainment. I think the signed aspect is more to satisfy a magician.
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The sign don't sign debate can go on forever.

Just a question & an idea Smile

That's all.

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On 2009-07-21 17:24, Michael Peterson wrote:
The sign don't sign debate can go on forever.

Just a question & an idea Smile

That's all.

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Mike

I like a signature, but signing a silk is a dealers dream. Now, the nature of silk, however, is that as the spectator signs it, that same ink can sign your duplicate silk at the same moment, soooo, that opens doors and solves some problems.
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On 2009-07-21 17:39, magicians wrote:
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On 2009-07-21 17:24, Michael Peterson wrote:
The sign don't sign debate can go on forever.

Just a question & an idea Smile

That's all.

Thanks,
Mike

I like a signature, but signing a silk is a dealers dream. Now, the nature of silk, however, is that as the spectator signs it, that same ink can sign your duplicate silk at the same moment, soooo, that opens doors and solves some problems.


Well, I've been doing the signed silk to pepper (it is a pepper, not a pepper shaker by the way. Haha) for a couple years now, and I haven't run into much trouble. I like your trick quite a bit, but I've poured a lot of work into what I'm already doing, so I'm not really looking for a new trick altogether. I'm just experimenting with the trick that I have.

I was also wondering, has there been any groundbreaking work on the classic silk vanish over the past few years? I haven't seen much with it?
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