I just reviewed a set of Supreme Dumpy Cups (that's what they were sold to me as) and the beads (and guage copper they are spun from) are very thin.

This causes them to be quite wobbly when stacked and can cause them to stick together when working. As they are all like this I am assuming that it is not one of the the cups which is out of shape etc.

Does anyone else have a set of these cups that can shed a little light on this please? I am making the assumption that they are all like this but that may not be the case.

There are pics here: http://www.cupsandballsmagic.com/Supreme-Dumpy-Cups.html

Thanks,
Bri

Hey Bri… not a very attractive name (Supreme Dumpy Cups) for a set of Cups, but I found them attractive just the same. I wonder how many such Cups were made and when.

Thanks,
Bruce

Lol, I never thought of that! Not a great name no! Perhaps someone could shed some lighton them, I know nothing other than that's what they were sold to me as....

Nice cups, thanks for the review/pics!

They remind me of the foxy 2.V's that RNT2 put out, but with a slightly wider saddle...

They do have that feel about them mate yeah... They do have a very wide mouth. They're unusual cups that's for sure...

Either way I'm quite taken with them!

I wonder about these. They are almost the same height and saddle as the Stanley cups, but the mouth size is much larger. The originals were spun by Burtini. I don't know who did the work for Supreme. You might try contacting Ian Adair. He is still among the living and he is also still performing.

The mouth beads look the same as on the Stanley cups. So I think the wobble is introduced from some other factor.

Thanks Bill, I'll see if I can contact Ian. I will dig out my Stanley cups and compare them too.

As promised... here are some comparison pics...
http://www.cupsandballsmagic.com/Supreme......son.html
Bri

That wobble is because of the taper of the top shoulder bead. There isn't anything firm for the cup to sit on. Definitely not Burtini's work!

As well as the taper Bill, the mouth bead actually covers the top bead sometimes, it's almost like a combination of the wrong size opening and the shoulder bead.

The mystery deepens! I will get around to getting the other mystery combo cups I have and comparing those too, they look similar to an unidentified set in the museum but are larger, I have a feeling they may be spun by the same person.

I wonder who the "mystery spinner" might be.

They're interesting cups - thanks for posting the pics.

If memory serves, I believe that Harry Stanley advertised two different types of cup at the time he was selling the cups comemorating Vernon's tour of the UK in the 50's. There were the standard cups and another set, though I've never managed to track a set of these down. The ads showed a picture of the Vernon cups, but not the others. However, I believe the second type of cup was advertised as being smaller (and not larger) than the Vernon cups. I'll see if I can dig out the magazine ad - it's probably in The Gen.

Richard

Thanks Richard, this is interesting. They are certainly the same guage and they seem a little odd having a smallish attic space but very large mouth. I'll dig out the other combo set I have later in the week and take some comparison pics.

Bri

Don asked me how these compare to the Foxy 2.5's so I took a few pics. The Foxy 2.5's have a thicker guage metal and a smaller internal mouth diameter. In addition to this the beads are better on the 2.5's.

I put a few extra pics up here in case anyone else was interested in the comparison:
http://www.cupsandballsmagic.com/Supreme......son.html

Bri

Bri,

Great pics but the last one is a bad link.

Floyd

Ya, you can't put a comma or the dot in 2.5 in the URL.

Weirdly, the link on your web page (http://www.cupsandballsmagic.com/Comparisons.html) to this page works, and the URL is the same as you posted. The prohibited characters are probably URL encoded in your link on the web page.

Bah I 'ates compuers!

Should be fixed now I hope...
http://www.cupsandballsmagic.com/Supreme......son.html

Bri