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Sam Weiss Loyal user Stratford, CT should have more than 278 Posts |
Dave,
Yes, I could not pay for all of that stuff so I'll either wait until next year when I can get a job or my dad... but now that I think about it (I forgot that I can get a job next year ) it would be easier on everyone if I payed for them. A million thanks, Sam
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Sam Sandler Inner circle 2487 Posts |
HI all ,
I am jumping in here as I am a bit confused with all this talk of doves being noisy and difficult to care for and very expensive. maybe I am just lucky or unaware but I have performing doves for over 12 years now and they are very easy to care for and food cost is something like $10 every 3 months, and no noise Now let me explain and share this advice that I have learned first Keep them outside and make the cage bigger than a 24" cube give them some room to move and flap they will be happier for it make sure that the cage has an area that is out of the sun so that they can move back and forth as they want to. My doves live out back in a coup all year round. one of the keys is if you buy the birds now get them outside right away so that they can mult with the weather changes. if you buy them when its already kind of cold out then you will need to keep them inside untill spring then move them outside and let them stay out there. as for feeding them I use small pellets some times refered to as duck pellets and I feed them 2 times a day. don't just leave a bowl out there however if you are going a way for a day or two leaving a bowl of food is a good idea. and make sure there is always clean water. Ihave a large water feeder that I only need to refill once a week. I can also tell you do not buy them from a pet store please buy them from a breeder or a bird farm. they will be healthier and live longer IMO. as for the noise this one confuses me as mine do not make any noise. Now I only buy females and that may be why as talking with my bird farm they told me that the females are usually much quieter then males. so I have only had females over the years. and they are quiet. so how to convince your parents. first start with suggesting that you and your dad build a cage (quality father son time)not to mention you will have a nicer bigger cage for less money. then tell them that you will take care of them and train them for the show. now keep in mind do not make this promise unless you actually willing to keep it! as for training there are several dove videos out there from tony clark, dave womack, andy amyx and others but the real key to training is to work them consistantly. its not a one week project it will day 10-15 minutes a day 2 -3 times a day for 2-3 weeks but then your good to go. have fun and good luck sam
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Dave Scribner Assistant Manager Lake Hopatcong, NJ 4855 Posts |
Sam, all good points. Most magicians I've talked to feed their doves seed which is more expensive that the pellets you are using. I've had birds that just won't eat the pellets. I buy dove mix which is seed especially made for doves and costs me about $15 a month.Food is the biggest expense regardless of whether you use pellets or seed.
I totally agree with you about the noise. As I've mentioned many times here, I had 31 birds in my basement at one time and I can't say the noise was that bad. Sure there was some cooing but not that bad. I've mentioned a 24" cube before and this really is larger enough for one bird. Of course the bigger the better and especially if you are going to keep more than one bird.
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
I was not really meaning that doves themselves are overly expensive to kuy and keep, but that dove magic is. I am in the process and it is costing me plenty to get ready to add them to my show. The cost of holders, harnesses, pockets, jackets, props, and all the things you need for a good dove act adds up.
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Sam Sandler Inner circle 2487 Posts |
Regan
this is true but this is also true for anything in magic if you want to do it right it will cost you. when I buy an illusion trust me it cost me but I also know that it will last forever as I buy the real deal. make the investment and you will be happy with it as it should only be a one time investment. good luck sam
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Sam Weiss Loyal user Stratford, CT should have more than 278 Posts |
... And the help keeps rolling in
Thanks all! I guess the most trouble I'll have is finding a perfect spot for the coop once I get the money (easier said than done). Sam Weiss
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