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On 2009-08-12 10:51, balducci wrote:
Danny: Not really. But, ironically, your response still answered my question, so thanks.

Davit: Thanks, I see what you mean. We really haven't had the same sort of headlines down here. For example, the study you referred to only got small mention here.


Yea really it answers the question, you just don't agree with the answer. Each side has an attitude of trying to make everything bad the other parties fault, and taking credit for what happens by chance to go right. Neither side cares.

The fact is that if it can be used as a pollitical ploy (either look at how they screwed THIS up, or look how we SAVED YOU, it will be.) it will be. Look at all the name calling going on now over health care by BOTH SIDES! Where is the truth? Each tells lies, then their partners swear to them, and call the other side a liar at the same time.

Can you really tell me this is not what is happening right now? Can you really tell me each side is not just as guilty as the other? I am pretty sure I know your answer already. It resembles Steves song posted above.
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Danny, no, your response did not answer my specific question (except in an ironic way).

I was asking for a specific example of how swine flu was being used to promote a political agenda in America right now, by anyone on the left or the right. I was (and still am) curious to hear how this topic is being spun.

I certainly agree that the right and left in America are blaming one another for all sorts of things. I am simply not aware of how swine flu is being used in this way.

If you are unable to give me that specific example, don't worry about it.
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Ok spacifically one side wants control of our lives, and the other wants control and simply tells us they don't LOL!

(that was an attempt at humor but when I read it, well it has far too much truth in it for me to find it funny)
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They are going to make a movie about this and call it "Swine Flu Over The CooCoo's Nest"?
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Always trust your Government and Institutes of higher learning to be truthful and humane.

http://cseserv.engr.scu.edu/StudentWebPa......aper.htm

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq76-1.htm

http://www.rbs2.com/humres.htm

The above links are by no means "proof" of anything but are only footnotes to be used for further investigation should anyone be interested enough to check out the facts before saying Phooey! Another Conspiracy freak.

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I blame the tabloids for the borderline hysteria I see here in Norway concerning this "pandemic". The newspapers biggest role is to spread fear in order to increase sales. I really find it a bit odd that the defense of freedom of press can be used to justify spreading panic and misinformation.

Here as in most of the western world, the government has been prepared for a pandemic for many many years. Long before there was even a single case of this here, there were airport screenings and whatnot. I'm going to visit my father in the hospital later today, and there will be hand cleaning stations and all kinds of steps at the entrance and exits, just to be on the safe side.

Still, there really doesn't seem to be much to worry about. Apparently it is a fairly mild form of influenza which may or may not be more easily transmitted than most other known kinds. The number of people who die from this will be absolutely microscopic compared to car accidents, cancer and plain old bad luck.

The disease in itself really is a non issue and it is all mostly interesting as phenomenon and a drill of how we are prepared to handle a real global pandemic. (People turning into zombies and walking the streets mumbling "braaaaainsss".)

Still, here we will apparently all be offered the vaccine for free. The government has bought enough for everyone, even though there is no real reason to do so besides quenching panic caused by misinformation.

Of course if it was really dangerous, we would all have died anyway long before this vaccine will actually arrive at the health centers, but that is another issue. Smile

My advice is to drop the conspiracy theories as far as the government goes. Even the evil politicians will get the flu. It's natural.
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You miss my point. I have no conspiracy theory about the flu, I am simply saying that the flu is being used for pollitical posturing and I am right. As is EVERY issue.
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Danny, my comment was not really directed at you. In fact, I think I agree with pretty much everything you have said.

I was just eager to be part of the discussion really. I don't have any points to make other than that if it wasn't for the media wanting to make money by creating fear, then there wouldn't be any issue for anyone to exploit.

What interest me most is fear. And the fact that even though I believe it is all a bunch of nonsense, I myself worry when someone next to me on the bus sneezes.
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I guess "If it bleed it leads" may not be the best philisophy for getting people informed huh?
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... and I am right. As is EVERY issue.

I like me. Who do you like?
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You miss my point. I have no conspiracy theory about the flu, I am simply saying that the flu is being used for pollitical posturing and I am right. As is EVERY issue.


I don't get what you mean, but this is my whole quote in context.
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My daughter has been diagnosed with the Swine Flu and is coming home from O.U. to stay until she is over it.
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Hope she feels better soon Tom.

O.U.= Oklahoma University?


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Jack,

Thanks!

Yes, it's her second year at the University Oklahoma.

Tom
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I had a cousin who went there. We used to tease him that he was majoring in rodeo.
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I had a cousin who went there. We used to tease him that he was majoring in rodeo.
O.U. would be polo, O.S.U is rodeo. Smile
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On 2009-08-19 00:45, landmark wrote:
I had a cousin who went there. We used to tease him that he was majoring in rodeo.


What to you mean 'tease' him, I think it is a legitimate major?!
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