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I think the twists and turns of the thread are exactly the point. While some wish to accuse the media of bias (which it undoubtedly has), the direction of finger pointing appears to be exclusively "those bad guys are giving unfair coverage to my (correct) position."

To some, showing Franken in a good light is tantamount to having a "liberal bias"--whatever that means.

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John,

Tantamount means: equivalent to a particular thing in effect, outcome, or value, especially something unpleasant. Smile

If the post to this thread had been limited to Franken and his map, this thread would have ended about as soon as it was posted. Smile
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I want to run a vent figure for office in Minnesota and see if it wins.
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On 2009-08-13 20:44, Tom Bartlett wrote:
John,

Tantamount means: equivalent to a particular thing in effect, outcome, or value, especially something unpleasant. Smile



The "unpleasant" is a funny bit, but in disagreement with this dictionary. Smile

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On 2009-08-14 00:39, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
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On 2009-08-13 20:44, Tom Bartlett wrote:
John,

Tantamount means: equivalent to a particular thing in effect, outcome, or value, especially something unpleasant. Smile

Not exactly in dis

The "unpleasant" is a funny bit, but in disagreement with this dictionary. Smile

John
Not exactly in disagreement:

tan⋅ta⋅mount  /ˈtæntəˌmaʊnt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [tan-tuh-mount] Show IPA
Use tantamount in a Sentence
–adjective equivalent, as in value, force, effect, or signification: His angry speech was tantamount to a declaration of war.

War may be necessary but enormously unpleasant. Smile
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On 2009-08-13 20:23, Sam Weiss wrote:
Yeah exactly! This thread isn't about politics! It's about a guy who can draw a map of the US from memory and he just HAPPENS to be Al Franken. Who cares if it's not perfect! If you can't replicate the stunt he does you shouldn't criticize the accuracy. As much as I like debating politics, this isn't the thread for it.


try mentioning al gore, and see how quickly a "discussion" [sic] turns to politics...
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On 2009-08-14 00:39, Magnus Eisengrim wrote:
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On 2009-08-13 20:44, Tom Bartlett wrote:
John,

Tantamount means: equivalent to a particular thing in effect, outcome, or value, especially something unpleasant. Smile

Not exactly in dis

The "unpleasant" is a funny bit, but in disagreement with this dictionary. Smile

John
Not exactly in disagreement:

tan⋅ta⋅mount  /ˈtæntəˌmaʊnt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [tan-tuh-mount] Show IPA
Use tantamount in a Sentence
–adjective equivalent, as in value, force, effect, or signification: His angry speech was tantamount to a declaration of war.

War may be necessary but enormously unpleasant. Smile

I really do not think unpleasantness is necessary for something to be tantamount to something else.

Myself, I always prefer to look up words in the Merriam-Webster dictionary. In this case:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tantamount

---
* Main Entry: tan·ta·mount
* Pronunciation: \ˈtan-tə-ˌmau̇nt\
* Function: adjective
* Etymology: obsolete tantamount, noun, equivalent, from Anglo-French tant amunter to amount to as much
* Date: 1641

: equivalent in value, significance, or effect <a relationship tantamount to marriage>
---

Marriage. Hmmm.
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Balducci

That's a heck of a way to disagree!

Don't you just love words.
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On 2009-08-13 20:23, Sam Weiss wrote:
Yeah exactly! This thread isn't about politics! It's about a guy who can draw a map of the US from memory and he just HAPPENS to be Al Franken. Who cares if it's not perfect! If you can't replicate the stunt he does you shouldn't criticize the accuracy. As much as I like debating politics, this isn't the thread for it.


try mentioning al gore, and see how quickly a "discussion" [sic] turns to politics...


Doesn't it turn to politics by definition upon your mentioning him? That's like saying try mentioning Phil Mickelson and see how quickly a discussion turns to golf. The "sic" should go after "turns" not "discussion."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On 2009-08-13 22:59, MagicSanta wrote:
I want to run a vent figure for office in Minnesota and see if it wins.


Will it be a Democrat, Republican, or what?

:)
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Already was done here--it was named Ventura
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On 2009-08-14 02:45, LobowolfXXX wrote:The "sic" should go after "turns" not "discussion."


Actually, I don't think there should be a [sic] at all, since none of the words have an archaic or incorrect spelling...
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Already was done here--it was named Ventura


:)

I guess MagicSanta is too late! Wait...Jesse just, "The Body", so maybe Santa can do the head too! Smile

Come to think of it, aren't most politicians puppets?
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On 2009-08-14 02:21, Tom Bartlett wrote:
Balducci

That's a heck of a way to disagree!

Don't you just love words.


The old system: debating the 'meanings of words' to circumvent issues.
Just as well; the issues at hand weren't worth discussing.
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On 2009-08-14 02:45, LobowolfXXX wrote:The "sic" should go after "turns" not "discussion."


Actually, I don't think there should be a [sic] at all, since none of the words have an archaic or incorrect spelling...


Yeah, it's kind of like "ironic," post-Morrissette. Sometimes it's simpler to go with the intended meaning.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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On 2009-08-14 08:28, ClintonMagus wrote:
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On 2009-08-14 02:45, LobowolfXXX wrote:The "sic" should go after "turns" not "discussion."


Actually, I don't think there should be a [sic] at all, since none of the words have an archaic or incorrect spelling...


Yeah, it's kind of like "ironic," post-Morrissette. Sometimes it's simpler to go with the intended meaning.


Yea I hated that song too.

Great episode of a "Post Cheers" sit com with George Went. (probably should google him so I spell his name right LOL, so I mean the Norm charector for anyone who wants to jump on me) A guy said something smart alec to him and the guy looks and says to George "I was just being IRONIC MAN". To which he replied, "No, you were being 'sarcastic'. Although it was IRONIC you didn't know that".
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Great episode of a "Post Cheers" sit com with George Went. (probably should google him so I spell his name right LOL, so I mean the Norm charector for anyone who wants to jump on me) A guy said something smart alec to him and the guy looks and says to George "I was just being IRONIC MAN". To which he replied, "No, you were being 'sarcastic'. Although it was IRONIC you didn't know that".



My favorite Norm line: "It's a dog eat dog world out there and I'm wearing milkbone underwear."

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I love that one too.

Tough to pick a "favorite" for me because every time I remember one or see one, THAT is my new favorite!

I hope between the two of us we have managed to sidetrack the discussion for good.
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I love that one too.

Tough to pick a "favorite" for me because every time I remember one or see one, THAT is my new favorite!

I hope between the two of us we have managed to sidetrack the discussion for good.


What discussion? Smile

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On 2009-08-14 02:45, LobowolfXXX wrote:
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On 2009-08-14 01:29, gaddy wrote:
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On 2009-08-13 20:23, Sam Weiss wrote:
Yeah exactly! This thread isn't about politics! It's about a guy who can draw a map of the US from memory and he just HAPPENS to be Al Franken. Who cares if it's not perfect! If you can't replicate the stunt he does you shouldn't criticize the accuracy. As much as I like debating politics, this isn't the thread for it.


try mentioning al gore, and see how quickly a "discussion" [sic] turns to politics...


Doesn't it turn to politics by definition upon your mentioning him? That's like saying try mentioning Phil Mickelson and see how quickly a discussion turns to golf. The "sic" should go after "turns" not "discussion."


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from wisegeek.com -"Many publications use sic in a somewhat snide way, to highlight an error"


No, this is no discussion, except for the part about the definition of certain words. The rest is all crap. To call it such would be an error. This is just typical "Nots" ideological digital stroking off.

And snide is my middle name...
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