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William Wortman
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I was wondering what is the best way to carry flash paper for strolling ?
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The best way to carry flash paper for strolling is to not.
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I use flash paper for my variation of Sankey's 'Phoenix Effect' and I just carry it in my pants pocket. Be VERY careful using flash paper in a restaurant though.
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Be sure the management knows you are going to do it, and make sure you have liability insurance.
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Definately get the ok from management first.
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William,

To better answer your question, my friend Eddy Cervantes has a fancy ciggerate holder (one that hinges and opens like a book) and he keeps flash paper in it. However...Eddy also doesn't work restaurants.

As Whit stated...you ALWAYS need to make sure you ask the Managements permission before using it and you should make darn certain that you have good liability insurance.

I would never use flash paper in a restaurant...but that's just me. That being said, I do fire eating at Crystals, but the trade off is that I'm on STAGE and my audience is about 10-15 feet from the stage while I perform. I also have 2 Chemical Fire Extinguisers on stage with me in case of accidents. My restaurant that I perform in went out and got all the special permits to allow me to do fire in the restaurant and they got extra insurance just in case.

I also carry a 5 million dollar insurance plan to cover accidents on the job.

But also, in my opinion...Fire Eating is "still" much safer then flash paper...but I'm sure I'm in the minority with that statement...

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On 2009-08-15 16:08, Christopher Lyle wrote:
The best way to carry flash paper for strolling is to not.


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I know I was only going to use flash paper for a washer production and only if management will allow it.
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Seems to me that using a simple L'Masquade would be a much cleaner sleight for producing a washer.

Think about it...

You show two empty hands, close your fist, rub the back of your hand and Ta Da. You have a clean "permissionless" production that won't offend anyone.

You'd be shocked at how some people get wiggy about a minor explosion e inches away from them...
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On 2009-08-16 18:55, Christopher Lyle wrote:


You'd be shocked at how some people get wiggy about a minor explosion e inches away from them...


Agreed. When I use flash paper for an effect in my restaurants or at a party I try to feel out the table/group to see if they will be receptive to it. I would never use flash paper as an opener to produce something. You don't want to scare the table. Better safe than sorry.
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Wow! Either times have changed, or I had the wrong mentor! Then again, it has been a while since I've worked a restaurant. My mentor was a pyro, non other than Jim Pace. He used flash paper in restaurants more than anything else, and so did I. I certainly agree with being cautious, and following all the necessary laws. The way Jim taught me to carry flash paper is very cost effective. He would take a pack of flash pads and cut them into thirds, lengthwise. Then staple each strip at the top. Basically you get three times the amount of flash paper, for the cost of one pad. Then he would clip one of those packets behind the lapel of his vest. I never worked in a vest, so I clipped them behind the lapel of my coat. When needed, I would reach behind my lapel, in a match pull type fashion, and pull one strip off the stack. I would use it to produce a coin, sponge ball, cards, cigs, and a variety of other items. I always used it as an opener, and it worked very well. Granted, this was a decade ago and the world has changed quite a bit since the 90's. Do heed other's warnings though, they are certainly valid. Good Luck! Smile
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I strongly recommend carrying flash paper in a waterproof container filled with gasoline or napalm.

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I strongly recommend carrying flash paper in a waterproof container filled with gasoline or napalm.

WHAT? I just know that you are laughing, but throwing caution to the wind there are some who might actually do this if they read it here.

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OK. I DON'T strongly recommend carrying flash paper in a waterproof container filled with gasoline or napalm. Especially napalm.

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William Wortman
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I found I nice carrying case for flash paper.

I cut them in half and carry them in a Tic Tac Chill case.
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I just put the flashpapers in the thin business card case the ones that can carry 10 cards only. It makes it elegant and same time small size to carry.
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I like the vest idea, If I was working in a restaurant that had candles I would use flash paper but I don't.
Don't keep it where it will get wet, this includes your pants pockets if it is hot out, the moisture will leach the acid out and burn stuff.
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Assuming you don't mind carrying each piece in a crumpled up ball, those old school pill bottles with the screw-tops work wonderfully.
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The Tic-Tac idea is pretty good. The camping section of most chain department stores (Wal-Mart, CostCo, Target, whatever) should have a waterproof match box made by Coleman or Ozark Trail or something similar. I like the idea of these being specifically designed to be proof against leakage and what-have-you.

Anyone got any thoughts on that?

On the safety note, I know a couple of stunt guys locally that do fire tricks. A few, I wouldn't trust with a Bic lighter, let alone the tricks they do. But a couple of them (who are both close friends) have a very paranoid mentality. They're not against doing the fire trick, but they have so many precautions and safety concerns that it borders on neurotic and they'll shut down the trick if they feel even a little out of safety. Like I said, they can get a little annoying, but when you're dealing with something like fire... well... I think it's the ONLY way to be: Don't be afraid to do it, but go stupid extreme on the safety - think of every possibility and be ready to NOT do it.

When these guys opt out of the fire, they have a large repertoire of other things they can do instead (and some pretty neat stuff). As it was mentioned, there's plenty of non-combustible ways to produce or vanish something Smile
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Also, wear a mask during your performances in order to prevent the spread of H1N1 ...
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