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Paddy Inner circle Milford OH 1571 Posts |
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On 2004-01-05 19:52, Leo B. Domapias wrote: Sorry Ben, but I disagree with most of what you wrote. Yes it is fine to me mischievous, but the other is out and out insulting. I make very sure that I am the butt of all the jokes in my act. I am the one that looks embarassed, not a volunteer. The only exception is at kid's parties when I do the topsy turvy crayon routine, and even then I speak to the mom and explain that she will not be able to follow my instructions and have it turn out correct, if that will embarrass her I don't do it. But to make fun of a lady by prtending to grope her or by making fun of her weight is far over the line. Don Rickles insulted people for his comedy but I sure would never attend his shows and that make us look just as bad. Peter |
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kaytracy Inner circle Central California 1793 Posts |
Leo, I have to agree with Paddy above.
If you think that the examples you cited are appropriate for Children's shows, I would be very surprised, if you performed any of those, that you are not placed behind bars! In this day and age, when people want to see magic, it is hard to compete with the special effects and digital tricks they get in the movies true, but saying that performances like you mentioned are okay to do? Well, I guess I do not care for the way the Amazing Johnathan treats his helpers either, so I do not go to his shows. Given the above, how would YOU personally feel if you were asked to volunteer and a plunger- obviously known as something that goes into the toilet- ended up on your head? All in good fun you say? NOT something I would aspire to have happen, as an adult or a child. I do feel that parents have long neglected their duties at raising and rearing their children in the US, (Thanks Sesame street) but it is a fact that if you are working in a market that has issues with this sort of behavior, then you need to pay attention to it! It is possible to interact with children and have fun without being demeaning to them. Other than a single small episode with fire and flashpaper- which I no longer use with children, and some adults! - I have not had any serious problems with children's shows. kay
Kay and Tory
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Wanlu Inner circle Manila, Philippines 3058 Posts |
I would have to say that funny routines with kids have been part of my repertoire. Some are embarassing to them but but its just how the prop works...the Bongo Hat...the Half Mask...cut no cut scissors which I use with an adult helper...the break away wands and stuff...
After giving an assistant a wand and it breaks, I tell her not to panic because I have a wooden spoon she can use as a wand but the spoon breaks as well...I bring out two more break away props and she breaks it in the routine...after that I say "I noticed everything you touch breaks, don't TOUCH ME!" and do a funny face and act like Im scared of her. That may sound offending but it always gets a whole lot of laughs...one assistant even chased me around the party. I guess when you say something bad just be obvious that you don't really mean it. I guess giving them the proper acknowledgement after the routine will make up for the embarassment... My two cents Wanlu
"The Old Path"
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jnrussell Loyal user Michigan 207 Posts |
I found some spring loaded "poppers" (shoot streamers and confetti into the air) at my dollar store (2/$1) and was anxious to add it to my children's square circle production. Pulled it out half-way through the load, twisted it and caused a mad scramble to the front to get the magic glitter! Scratch that one immediately! Plus, it kind of made a mylar mess for the people to clean up. OH well. Sounded good in the office! LOL
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KC Cameron Inner circle Raleigh, North Carolina 1944 Posts |
Fascinating how few of the posters on this thread still post here.
As for dangerous magic, perhaps a little herd-thinning is not bad.... (That was a joke....sort of) I think I've dealt with too many stupid people today. |
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Brian Lehr Inner circle Edmonton, Canada 1605 Posts |
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On 2012-05-06 20:52, KC Cameron wrote: We may not post much, but some of us still lurk. ;-) Brian |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
This is my first time seeing this thread.
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Howie Diddot Inner circle San Francisco & Los Angeles California 3288 Posts |
The thread is very informative; I looked at the fire book at one time, but I decided very early not to use fire, I am sure that if a freak accident occurred and you burned the house down, the parents will not pay you for the show.
I avoid needles, razors along with any trick that involves placing anything in a mouth. I am going to PM Dennis about the balloon law, I had never heard of this before. |
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Bill Hilly Elite user 449 Posts |
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On 2012-05-10 09:44, Howie Diddot wrote: I guess the trick would be to convince them it wasn't an accident but part of the show. Then they have to pay or be in breach of contract. |
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MichaelCGM Inner circle Oklahoma City 2286 Posts |
I was doing a couple of shows for youngsters a few years ago. They were stage shows, so I wanted effects that played big on stage - but pack small (as per my personal mandate). I was using 20th Century Shorts. I used to tuck the ends into the boys belt. At the first of four shows, I went into the audience to get an assistant. He was a thin lad, so everything went smoothly. At the second show, the boy was just a tad chunky and wasn't wearing a belt (which his loose shirt hid until I had him on stage.) Well, trying to get the ends tucked into the top of his pants, while wrestling against a generous belly, didn't have quite the look I was shooting for. My wife was in the audience and let me know, in no uncertain terms, that the effect might draw fire. It didn't, but I've not used 20th Century Shorts since. Yup! Never again!
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Howie Diddot Inner circle San Francisco & Los Angeles California 3288 Posts |
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On 2012-05-10 16:51, Bill Hilly wrote: A better plan would be that I can burn the house down while performing, for a very sexy and hot single mom. while standing outside watching the fire department fight the fire, I can tell the “hot” mom” that this has never happened before and how horrible I feel; and go on to explain that for generations my family has always believed that when a mistake of this magnitude occurs to redeem myself the only cure would be to move in with me |
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tboehnlein Inner circle ohio 1787 Posts |
"Ben Benjay writes: ". . . the “treat your volunteers with respect and kindness” principle is not cast in stone."
Oh yes it is! And those who cross the line, pay for it BIG TIME" And then I think of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEiyKckTpig |
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Leland Inner circle St Louis 1180 Posts |
I once decided that it would be fun and a perfect picture moment for mom if I threw out balloons to all the kids during my show...MISTAKE! I lost control. Not all the kids ended with a balloon and they were a distraction. Never again!
Life of Magic!
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Police Magician Special user Georgia 648 Posts |
I have both the book and wallet that ignites, showing fire. Never again will I make this mistake. I put too much lighter fluid in the wallet, placed it in my back pocket and waited for the time to bring it out. Well, the lighter fluid oozed out of the wallet, into my back pocket, saturating my pants and underwear. I felt the effects of it shortly afterward when my left cheek started hurting. It felt like it was on fire and had a burning sensation. Sadly, I had no way to remedy the situation at the time, but it left a nice mark there for awhile.
Not to be outdone, years ago, I use to wear a fanny pack that held my gun, expandable baton, and pepper gas. I was eating at a restaurant with my family when I felt a burning sensation in my groin area. The pepper gas leaked out of the bottle, onto my front area where the fanny pack was held. The peppers in the gas started burning my front area. I went to the rest room and started "watering down" that area in the sink. You should have seen the look on this guy's face when he came into the rest room and saw me doing what I was doing. A moment I would not like to happen again, so I don't carry pepper gas in my fanny pack anymore. You think I would have learned from the fire wallet incident. Glenn
Glenn Hester
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Starrpower Inner circle 4070 Posts |
Very funny, Glenn. I did something equally stupid and embarrassing years ago when I was in my early 20's. I was doing a bit with a blank gun, and at the last minute I thought I would emulate Barney Fife. He used to shoot the gun accidentally when returning it to the holster, and I thought that would be funny to do on stage. Unfortunately, I did not realize that even though no projectile of consequence generally comes out of the gun, real hot gasses DO! (Did I mention I was not using a holster, but placing the gun into the waistband of my pants?)
I made a pretty good size burn on my new tux shirt! Fortunately, that was all that was damaged down there! BTW, I knew better than to do that with a real blank gun. I was using a starters pistol that does not have a real barrel, but the .22 caliber short charge still packs a wallop! I think I should take this time to mention that blank pistols have killed people, so be careful! |
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Police Magician Special user Georgia 648 Posts |
Star, I hurt just thinking about what you went through with the blank gun. I know the percussion it has when discharged. Because of my regular job, I stopped using a blank gun in my shows as I felt some kids would think it to be real (even with a disclaimer) and do something stupid. If I were not a cop, I would still be using it with a couple of tricks I do.
Someone commented on that incident I just posted. I told them "and they call my puppets dummies". Yes, I felt like a dummy with these two incidents. Oh well, live and learn. Glenn
Glenn Hester
P.O. Box 3095 Brunswick, Ga. 31521 912-571-8071 www.policemagic.com https://www.facebook.com/PoliceMagic https://www.facebook.com/groups/235078277679470/ |
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3163 Posts |
Glenn, I bet you looked like you had ants your pants.
I hate to laugh but that is funny. LOL Years ago I had a pack of flash paper go off in my shirt pocket. Didn't hurt but it did scare the daylights out of me. For a second I thought I was going to explode. Tom
The Daycare Magician Book
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Police Magician Special user Georgia 648 Posts |
Tom, that could have been horrible for you. Thankfully you came through it all right. I love hearing these stories. I have read that my incident is not isolated as others have had similar problems with the wallet too.
So that makes me feel better. Glenn
Glenn Hester
P.O. Box 3095 Brunswick, Ga. 31521 912-571-8071 www.policemagic.com https://www.facebook.com/PoliceMagic https://www.facebook.com/groups/235078277679470/ |
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Bill Hilly Elite user 449 Posts |
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On 2012-05-11 02:12, Howie Diddot wrote: Oh man! One of the greatest pick-up lines ever. |
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