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Illusion & Beyond Regular user 199 Posts |
The Great Kreskin is coming to Mountaineer on this Friday. I picked up a couple of tickets. They are only 12 bucks!!!!
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Sheesh, at those prices, it probably doesn't make a difference to him whether he finds his paycheck or not!
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
That's funny right there!!!!!
I love The Amazing Kreskin. Hope it's a big place !!!!
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cairo Elite user 406 Posts |
I'm not alone in thinking Kreskin made a career out of being a cheap imitation of Dunninger.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On 2009-08-21 13:54, cairo wrote: Who else thinks that? I have just about everything you can buy about each of them and they are miles apart in presentation and method!
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cairo Elite user 406 Posts |
"Conjuring" by James Randi ISBN 0-312-08634-2 Page 203 "...this act has since been copied by mentalist Krekin, most of whose show was taken from the work of Joseph Dunninger."
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
That was fast Cairo ... for someone new here you are unbelievably quick and well informed
So randi claims that Kreskin is a Ripp Off? Wasn't it The Amazing Kreskin before the Amazing randi? I could be wrong, so please enlighten me. Thanks!!!!
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cairo Elite user 406 Posts |
Asked and answered. End of story.
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markmiller Special user 731 Posts |
Cairo, smart of you to nip this in the bud and not get reeled in by the famous topic-changer from Singapore.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On 2009-08-22 02:49, cairo wrote: You are correct that randi takes every opportunity to Slag The Amazing Kreskin on his website. Wonder why?
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yea Slim it is almost as outrageous as someone who takes the time to avail himself of every opportunity (real or imagined) to bash, well say Criss Angel, Penn and Teller or Randi on a magic forum.
Yep I indeed wonder why. I have no idea if he is a cheap immitation of anything really. He did have a bit of trouble with that Las Vegas desert thingie a while back. http://www.rense.com/general24/kresk.htm http://members.tripod.com/amazing_kreskin/ Quote:
On 2009-08-22 09:00, markmiller wrote: I dragged it out a bit but am done too LOL.
Danny Doyle
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
Double posting again Danny? RIGHT
So you deny that randi bashes The Amazing Kreskin on his site? Kreskin never exposes ... And I'm proud of him for that ... unlike your magical idols
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
I said what I said, not what you said, end of story.
Danny Doyle
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Domino Magic Special user 999 Posts |
I always found it ironic that The Amazing Randi criticizes The Amazing Kreskin for not using his real name. Every slam against Kreskin, Randi will always point out Kreskin's real name, yet he continues to refer to himself as The Amazing Randi.
There's something about rocks and glass houses in there somewhere. And for those concerned about Kreskin "ripping off" Dunninger, well that was over 40 years ago and somehow Kreskin managed to thrive. At the time Dunninger's career was long over and in fact the last project Dunninger tried to do, he couldn't because his health was so poor. You know Houdini used to sabotage Blackstone. Maybe we should continue to hold a grudge for that. The fact is you can put Kreskin & Dunninger side-by-side and you will see two completely different acts & persona's. The list of illusionists that have copied Copperfield is a long one indeed, but no one here is holding them to high morals. Jeez - give it a rest. |
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Illusion & Beyond Regular user 199 Posts |
What I had seen in his show is nothing every other mentalist hasn't done. It's all in the presentation. Kreskin walked on the stage did 5 effects and got 2 standing ovations. It wasn't what he did, it was the way he presented himself. And yeah, he found his paycheck.
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Slim King Eternal Order Orlando 18012 Posts |
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On 2009-08-22 21:53, Domino Magic wrote: Perfectly stated!
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Domino Magic Special user 999 Posts |
And who made James Randi the moral leader for how magicians and mentalists should present themselves? I think I missed that meeting.
If Kreskin wants to represent himself as real, then why not? He's not hurting anyone. He's not telling people don't get surgery because he gets "an impression" you're really going to be ok. He's an entertainer, like the rest of us (well those of us here who actually perform). We ALL LIE. It's part of our job description. What has Randi accomplished? It seems to me he has created a big a scam as those he points fingers at. He doesn't perform. Has money donated to him so he can continue his "research". Those he has exposed continue to do what they do. Yet people still give him more money and he continues to slam people for donating money for what they believe in because that doesn't fit in with his world view. Personally, I think there is professional jealousy with Randi & Kreskin. Kreskin is world famous. After all these years he is still going strong, internationally known and no one has been able to rise above him. Randi has? Kreskin lives the part. He's not The OK Kreskin, he's not The Good Kreskin. He's The Amazing Kreskin - and always will be. |
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Jerskin Inner circle 2497 Posts |
I love Kreskin but he did lift parts of Dunninger's act (Q & A)
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Domino Magic Special user 999 Posts |
And Osterlind published his own version of The Black Box and did the act like that for a long time before ThoughtScan. So you could also accuse him of "lifting" the act. What does that achieve? It's just amazing to me that people are still accusing Kreskin OVER 40 years after the fact. Add to that the people saying he's lifted the act have never seen Dunninger. So what did he lift? He lifted the routine - not the act. Kreskin was never a Dunninger clone. He has always looked different, spoke different and has a style completely opposite of Dunninger.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Now wait wait wait.
You just wrote, "He lifted the routine, not the act". As if somehow this mitigates lifting the routine! You say it was 40 years as if that matters as well. Really put it like this. "That guy stole my whole stereo set". Your position would be "Well come on that was 40 years ago and anyhow he just took the reciever not the whole set". I am not going to pile on Kreskin mind you but it is just that this sort of defense is weak. I have no idea if he lifted any part of the act or not. (Though it is very interesting that our own "Arbiter of Ethics" does not seem to care) I was simply saying that the whole desert fiasco, plus the no charity money was a bit odd is all. I do not believe it had anything to do with Dunninger.
Danny Doyle
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