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The Pianoman Veteran user Lliving in Scotland. 345 Posts |
Hi all, After seeing the excellant Patrick Kuffs video on metal bending, although it deals mainly with spoons, forks,etc.
I wondered whats the best source for key / misc... bending techniques. I have bent quite a few spoons etc since getting the video and its very strong AND visual which is good for me due to my less than perfect Norwegian. Your thoughts gentlemen. Regards Alan |
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Scott Wells Inner circle Houston, TX 1025 Posts |
Banachek has all the work on psychokinesis and has just released Psychokinetic Silverware on bending forks. I'd be curious to have your thoughts (no pun intended) on comparing it with the Kuffs video.
thanks, Scott
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Steve Knight Elite user Oxford U.K. 479 Posts |
I only know of two books that cover the subject in any detail. One is "Key-bending" by Mark Walker, the other is "Gellerism Revealed" by Ben Harris. Both I believe were published by Micky Hades International.
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Mr Amazing Special user 617 Posts |
I don't know if you count it as a "source", but Bavli has an interesting key bending gimmick.
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The Pianoman Veteran user Lliving in Scotland. 345 Posts |
Thanks Guys and I will post a comparative review if I get Banachecks PS.
Regards Alan |
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Ray Eldard New user Phoenix, AZ 90 Posts |
Mark Walker's "Key-bending" and Ben Harris' "Gellerism Revealed" both published by Micky Hades International pretty much cover the world of key bending, though Portland's John Greene has as nice of a commercial key bend as you could hope to find.
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Thoughtreader Inner circle Calgary, Alberta, Canada 1565 Posts |
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On 2002-03-28 10:52, The Pianoman wrote: There is a way of bending a key right in front of your audience. Write me privately and I will be more than happy to discuss it with you. PSIncerely Yours, Paul Alberstat |
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I've sent this in private message, but I'll put it here: KeyWarper by Richard Marks is the best thing out there. It sells for under five bucks. I have been performing this method for two decades and can speak highly of its brilliance and simplicity. If you get it write to me and I will send you personal tips and techniques I've come up with using this product. I never leave home without be able to use it... and I'm not carrying a gimmick. I've done it practically naked a poolside and in every possible situation: surrounded, one on one, with touchy-feely spectators, etc. In those two decades I can only remember twice getting caught and of those two times the person didn't catch, but just reasoned out the solution. This thing is a marvel and, in a way, I'm sorry to be pumping it this much because I'd rather everyone stay away from it.
Happy Bending! Greg
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Julien Regular user 108 Posts |
It's also in his book "Mind Wrap".
Some nice (classical but nice) stuff in it too. |
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Thoughtreader Inner circle Calgary, Alberta, Canada 1565 Posts |
The book is "Mind Warp" and it does have some excellent ideas. I beleive that Lee Earle carries it.
PSIncerely Yours, Paul Alberstat Quote: On 2002-03-31 16:22, Julien wrote: |
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Julien Regular user 108 Posts |
My mistake
Time for punishment... Three hours of Oprah, da*n it! |
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
Mind Warp is a good book and Richard has some good stuff in there. I don't mean to pump him up so much, but I do like his stuff. He is a friend from my years growing up in Miami and I was at the meeting where he first sold his Key Warper. I told him that day he had come up with real magic. No I don't get a kickback from any of this... I still hold firm on Keywarper being the method for bending keys.
Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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The Pianoman Veteran user Lliving in Scotland. 345 Posts |
Thanks to one and all for their input on this.
Regards Alan "Can I borrow your antique silver cutlery for a moment?" Davidson. |
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pradip_rao New user Bombay, India 67 Posts |
I'm pitching in on this subject rather late, but I have seen Guy Bavli's gimmick (The Perfect KeyBender)in use, and I must say the results are quite amazing:
The actual key bend is done in only an instant; the key can be made to look as though it bent in the spectator's hand; the gimmick is easy to pick-up, use and dispose off. I recommend it highly! |
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
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On 2002-04-15 05:43, pradip_rao wrote: Here's the reason I don't like it: It is a gimmick and someone who stares at your hands will see it... and, trust me, they stare at your hands. Use Key Warper because even if they stare at your hands all they will see is keys... it's a stealth gimmick. greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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Vision Veteran user London 395 Posts |
Just thought I should mention, that they DONT stare at your hands. The bending dont occur when they believe it. If you cant make them look away, and misdirect them away from the critical moment, you shouldn't do metalbending. No offense anyone. But people working with metalbending do need some experience in misdirection. And if you bend it in someone elses hand, the heat is off from you.
Greg, have you seen Bavli's in real life? Because it's really deceptive. If you havent, do it! I on the other hand havent seen Key Warp, unfortunately. Sincerly yours, Vision
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
Vision, I've been doing the key bend for over 20 years now and I've done it under many situations. Trust me, you will find some who want to check everything, including your hands. Here's a for instance, I've done it where the person immediately grabbed my hands because he thought I might have a chemical that did the bend. What would have happened if I had Bavli's on me? In this case, all they found was my hands and the keys that I was going to try and bend. Watch the Bavli video on his own gimmick and see how many times he keeps the dirty hand down and away or curled as to not expose the gimmick. With Key warper you never have to hide your hands. But I'm sure everyone has a favorite method so I'll stop trying to explain mine. In a way I'm glad Key warper is not used as much because I would hate to see it become as common as other effects.
Happy Bending! Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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E-Leoni Veteran user USA 358 Posts |
I don't think Geller would be caught dead with a Bavli gimmick.
E-Leoni. |
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Agathon Regular user 161 Posts |
No, Blaine would just use fancy editing! LOL
What was I thinking, forget the above response. To confuse Geller and Blaine was a mistake on my part. To correct the mistake above, I saw Geller on a daytime show about a year and a half ago. He did a key bend and the camera pulled back to show that Geller had something in his hand, I thought it was very sloppy. The funny thing is that I saw Bavli at The Magic Castle and he did a key bend that for me was suspicious (I could see the gimmick in his hand). It reminded me of Geller. |
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pradip_rao New user Bombay, India 67 Posts |
Okay Greg,
I was impressed with the Bavli gimmick, but now you've sold me on the Key Warper! Looks like you have been using this gimmick(?)/method under virtual test conditions, and with great success. Is is still available commercially and if so, can you lead us to a source? And yes - Thank you for all the info you have so generously shared. Cheers, Pradip |
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