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Very cool -- great work. Your performance is actually stronger than your description of the effect -- I am glad you posted the video. I like the fact that your "handling" is kept to a relative minimum -- thanks for sharing on the Café!
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Thanks again guys!
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I think it's a *** great trick ! Congratulations. Smile
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VERY nice. All I would advise, is that in your patter to stop referring to it as a "trick". By doing so I think you're lessening its impact.

There's a good psychic kinda sandwich effect in my book "Magic From the Overground" and also on the "Clever Card Magic" DVD which plays extremely well, but this may top it.

Best wishes,
Paul.
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Nice!
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Nice job Weapon...
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Sounds like it will play for the lay audience
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Very nice! I agree with magicwanabe, the performance is much better in showing how strong an effect this really is. Your timing at the end is very good. A great impromptu miracle.

Any card is removed, sight unseen from a freely shuffled deck.
It is secured face down between the 2 Jokers for safe keeping.
The Jokers remain in plain sight the entire time.
A card is merely thought of by another spectator and announced to all.
The magician removes this thought of card from the deck.

If the colors of the two cards matched, that would be an ok trick.

But under just the right conditions (put in your favorite patter), when one card is touched and one card is thought of…unbelievably the cards are each other’s mates.

Thank you for sharing.

Jim
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Wow thanks you mr hallas, I use a lot of your material when I preform..
I will definitly take the word trick out of my magic vocabulary!
comming from you this is a great compliment!

thanks everyone.. I will send the PW for the explanation very soon!
Eternity by Emran Riaz (Gimmicks + Download) An IMPOSSIBLE prediction of ANY number, ANY word, literally ENGRAVED in a medallion they've been holding THE ENTIRE TIME.
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/12181
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On 2009-08-26 08:17, MagicMarker wrote:
> If they were asked to name any card "except" the 7 of Hearts then the odds of
> picking the 7 of Diamonds would be 51 to 1.

Actually, just to correct that. Mathematically the odds would be 51 to 1
Psychologically I reckon that most people wouldn't name the 7 of diamonds if
the 7 of hearts was mentioned.

-Rd

Actually, I believe the odds are 1 in 52 for the touched card and 1 in 52 for the named card. The odds of their being mates is 1 in 52 x 1 in 52 or 1 in 2704.


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On 2009-08-30 05:24, tntjr wrote:
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On 2009-08-26 08:17, MagicMarker wrote:
> If they were asked to name any card "except" the 7 of Hearts then the odds of
> picking the 7 of Diamonds would be 51 to 1.

Actually, just to correct that. Mathematically the odds would be 51 to 1
Psychologically I reckon that most people wouldn't name the 7 of diamonds if
the 7 of hearts was mentioned.

-Rd

Actually, I believe the odds are 1 in 52 for the touched card and 1 in 52 for the named card. The odds of their being mates is 1 in 52 x 1 in 52 or 1 in 2704.





They're touching a random card. There are only 1 of 52 cards that they could name at that point. The chances that they name the mate are 1/52. The chances that they name the card that was touched are 1/52. In the end, assuming the presentation of the effect takes into account both those possibilities, we're really only talking about 1/26.
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On 2009-08-29 17:35, weapon wrote:
Wow thanks you mr hallas, I use a lot of your material when I preform..
I will definitly take the word trick out of my magic vocabulary!
comming from you this is a great compliment!

thanks everyone.. I will send the PW for the explanation very soon!


Glad to hear you use some of my stuff:)

Actually, I'd like to clarify the comment I made earlier in case some of the readers misunderstand me, regarding the word 'trick'. I wasn't suggesting the word 'trick' should never be used, after all, when seeing a magician with a pack of cards 'card' and 'trick' both spring to mind immediately. But if doing a mental effect with cards as this one surely is, it is strengthened if it is suggested you are trying something 'special' or different to the usual stuff you do. To refer to it as a trick within the performances itself sabotages the effect you are creating, as you are reminding them what they think they are seeing is a trick e.g. not what they believe it to be.

I know a few people who have 'gone over' to mentalism once they've started to realize how strongly some of the mental oriented card effects play when presented seriously. Al Mann wrote years back in one of his booklets (Third Extasy)that good mental card magic (which to some is an oxymoron)leaves the impression that the performer hardly handled the cards at all, giving no opportunity for any sleight based solutions. Of course that's not always the reality, but the impression to try and leave people with.

You've come up with a good effect, and I hope your creative streak continues.

Best wishes,
Paul.
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On 2009-08-30 06:48, Andrew Musgrave wrote:
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On 2009-08-30 05:24, tntjr wrote:
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On 2009-08-26 08:17, MagicMarker wrote:
> If they were asked to name any card "except" the 7 of Hearts then the odds of
> picking the 7 of Diamonds would be 51 to 1.

Actually, just to correct that. Mathematically the odds would be 51 to 1
Psychologically I reckon that most people wouldn't name the 7 of diamonds if
the 7 of hearts was mentioned.

-Rd

Actually, I believe the odds are 1 in 52 for the touched card and 1 in 52 for the named card. The odds of their being mates is 1 in 52 x 1 in 52 or 1 in 2704.





They're touching a random card. There are only 1 of 52 cards that they could name at that point. The chances that they name the mate are 1/52. The chances that they name the card that was touched are 1/52. In the end, assuming the presentation of the effect takes into account both those possibilities, we're really only talking about 1/26.


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( I love these probability threads.. magicians get so riled up about probability)
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Yes, because we are not statisticians and statistics can be confusing depending upon how you set up the question!

I believe the probability of the second person thinking of the mate should be 1:51 - if a card has been removed as part of the original selection, since you have eliminated the possibility of naming the same card based on how the trick is set up. (The first card doesn't "count" because it doesn't matter what it is.) However, since they have a free choice of 52 cards, it is actually 1:52.

Jim
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Weapon,
Very nice effect! And very well done! Bravo! I'm sure this effect will evolve in your hands over time, as is the case when we create. Just remember Vernon's advice: keep it simple, easy to understand, not too much patter, and eliminate any unnatural moves or unnecessary motions.

I was certainly impressed by the effect, not to mention the size of those guns! LOL.

Roberto
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Hey guys, all your compliments and comments are highly appreciated...

so this weekend I preformed this effect a few times and I changed the patter a little.. I took out the number probability and basically kept it simple.it worked well..

I have been getting a lot of request for the explanation..
if your status is a new user I will not send you the PW.. please understand this..thank you
Eternity by Emran Riaz (Gimmicks + Download) An IMPOSSIBLE prediction of ANY number, ANY word, literally ENGRAVED in a medallion they've been holding THE ENTIRE TIME.
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/12181
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Nice effect. Thought it was great. Guess I'll have to keep posting in order to gain access to your instructional video... Smile
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On 2009-08-31 11:35, weapon wrote:
Hey guys, all your compliments and comments are highly appreciated...

so this weekend I preformed this effect a few times and I changed the patter a little.. I took out the number probability and basically kept it simple.it worked well..

I have been getting a lot of request for the explanation..
if your status is a new user I will not send you the PW.. please understand this..thank you

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On 2009-08-31 11:35, weapon wrote:
Hey guys, all your compliments and comments are highly appreciated...

so this weekend I preformed this effect a few times and I changed the patter a little.. I took out the number probability and basically kept it simple.it worked well..

I have been getting a lot of request for the explanation..
if your status is a new user I will not send you the PW.. please understand this..thank you

Great trick. Does the video show the most recent version>
(23 more needed!)
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