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thurstonlives Regular user 106 Posts |
Hello everybody!
I would like to find good plans of this illusion. I know that abotts has one but...in my opinion I haven't seen too many good plans. I mean... Osbourne plans are incorrect since the measurements are not relative to any specific people size to then just make the right adjustments to a bigger or smaller assistant. You have to learn a lot by trial and error. Steinmeyer's plans sometimes has the same problem. Was very difficult to figure out the size of the oriental assistant (Judy Chien??)in the Modern Art cabinet plans. Same trial and error contest... I want to construct it as a one man illusion, I don't need a one man illusion plans but a good ones. I think that the first magician that did it was Alonzo. Since that I have seen a lot of ideas about this illusion. Some good some regular. The most resources you can give me the better. Thanks a lot. D |
ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
The only plans I know of are Osborne's. When I built it, I had to make adjustments - some to accommodatr a taller assistant and others just to keep the look "proportional".
My suggestion would be to search for "twister illusion" on Google and compare photos.
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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gulamerian Special user 581 Posts |
No matter what plans you get you will have to adjust them to you.
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thurstonlives Regular user 106 Posts |
Thanks a lot for the answers.
We could put a post here, resources of a beautiful illusion that belongs to nobody!! -Abotts' -Osborne's The illusion has evolved a lot with the time and I have seen beautiful ideas like the fake hair if not surrounded, etc... D |
Aaron Smith Magic Inner circle Portland, OR 1447 Posts |
Truthfully, I don't pay any attention to specific measurments when I building from plans. When you start building Illusions you will quickly realize that the dimensions will not be accurate. How could they? The designer has no clue what size your assistant is, so they usually add measurments of a typical size assistant. I have built this Illusion, but I did not use plans. It is a very easy Illusion to build. Simply measure your assistant from their waist to neck and that's the height of your box. The width would be from shoulder to shoulder plus about an inch on either side. The depth is your choice. If you have any further questions, feel free to PM me and I will be glad to explain the building process I went through.
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Craig Dickens Veteran user 376 Posts |
Um....the depth is your choice?
The width is one inch past the shoulders? Would love to see pictures of this... Can't imagine that those dimensions can work. Sorry, I am always suspicious of anybody who says building is easy.
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ClintonMagus Inner circle Southwestern Southeast 3997 Posts |
I would like to see photos also. Even with some plans to use as a starting point, this was one of the more difficult builds I have done, getting all of the angles right, etc.
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
Beware, that there is a lot more to building this illusion than Aaron has described. Building a truly deceptive prop that works and troupes well is never easy IMHO. The depth is certainly not "your choice" but depends upon certain given factors, as does the width. I too would love to see photos of it. Surely you must have some.
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
I believe they use to make illusion plans for the average girl assistant. I think back in the day when many of these plans were drawn up was 5' 2" tall women.
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blva888 New user 80 Posts |
I just watched this vid. This is a nice one. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-842335819255562917
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aboycemagic Regular user 153 Posts |
Did you know Franz Harry invented the Twister?
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AttnPls Special user 554 Posts |
Franz Harry?
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aboycemagic Regular user 153 Posts |
Sorry misspell Franz Harary.
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Chezaday Inner circle Naperville, IL 1673 Posts |
The history of this illusion is a bit confusing and I believe it's been discussed here on the Café before. As I remember Franz sketched something down for Ed Alonzo on a napkin.
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Hansel Inner circle Puerto Rico 2492 Posts |
Franz Harary comes with the idea and sketch something in a napkin...but Mark Kornhauser claime the idea too...so its an illusion with many fathers!
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ChadFindlay New user South Africa 8 Posts |
The depth is VERY important, and is often the mistake most home builders make when using the 'Proteus' principle (Steinmeyer's "Discovering Invisibility" lecture notes go into detail on the subject - really good read!)... your angles are severly limited, and the secret is often exposed when builders don't take the appropriate depth into consideration. We used Osborne plans to build the illusion. I'd recommend the $25 investment for plans, as well as your own research when building any illusion. It's so easy to miss out on those subtleties and details that really make an illusion magical.
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