We Remember The Magic Café We Remember
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Tricks & Effects » » Harry Anderson's Deluxe Needle Through Arm (0 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
magicinsight
View Profile
Inner circle
3960 Posts

Profile of magicinsight
Instead of the needle or hat pin thru arm, ou should try the screwdriver thru arm. What is a hat pin supposed to be anyway? A screwdriver thru arm is more "realistic" since it uses an object that is more recognizable, and it is more "gruesome" in appearance.
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver
the Sponge
View Profile
Inner circle
Atlanta
2672 Posts

Profile of the Sponge
Quote:
What is a hat pin supposed to be anyway? A screwdriver thru arm is more "realistic" since it uses an object that is more recognizable, and it is more "gruesome" in appearance.


a hat pin is a large skewer/needle and is usually referred to as such

I would argue that people using the needle are interested in believabilty. shoving a screwdriver screams fake/trick/halloween, where needle says ....hmmmm possible.

s
Turk
View Profile
Inner circle
Portland, OR
3545 Posts

Profile of Turk
Quote:
On 2004-10-13 17:24, the Sponge wrote:
Quote:
What is a hat pin supposed to be anyway? A screwdriver thru arm is more "realistic" since it uses an object that is more recognizable, and it is more "gruesome" in appearance.




a hat pin is a large skewer/needle and is usually referred to as such

I would argue that people using the needle are interested in believabilty. shoving a screwdriver screams fake/trick/halloween, where needle says ....hmmmm possible.

s


I agree with The Sponge. And, with the hat pin, safety pins or needles, I think the lack of blood might be less an issue than it would be if you used a screwdriver. I really find the screwdriver to be unbelievable both becasue of the lack of blood and because the item is sooo blunt, it is hard to have the "penetration" play as believable and not just a geek trick. But, in fairness to Magicinsight, I haven't seen him perform and he might very well be might be able to sell this effect using a screwdriver.

Mike
Magic is a vanishing Art.

This must not be Kansas anymore, Toto.

Eschew obfuscation.
magicinsight
View Profile
Inner circle
3960 Posts

Profile of magicinsight
Turk,

Thank you very much for your thoughts. I have used both the typical hat pin version and the screw driver. I always get strong reactions from both efects. I agree with your commetns as well as the previous posts that due to the thinness and size of the hat pin, the amount of blood that comes out of the bulb is more realistic when compared to the thickness of the screwdriver. I also agree that the screwdriver version does seem to be more "gimmicky" than the hat pin.

I use both according to the setting I am in. I like to use the hat pin version in a more serious envirnoment when I am presenting more "bizzare" effects or when demonstrating the power of suggestion and self-hypnonis to stop pain or when I am discussing how Native American Indian (or other cultures) went into trances to perform certain feats without feeling pain. I use the screwdriver in a more light hearted atmosphere where I jsut want to create a quick and unexpected shock. Perhaps I would talk about how my T.V. broke recently and the repairman came by to fix it (or whatever) and left his screwdriver and then bam!screwdriver thru arm.

Both can be used but I would agree with you that all things considered, the hat pin (I still do not think anyone other than a magician has ever seen a large hat pin like the one used in this effect) is more "realistic" if used in a more serious setting.

Thank you for your imput.

Best regards,

Michael
“Belief matters more than truth. Every moment, belief in imaginary things alters lives while truth sits unnoticed and waits.”
—Hakim, Loreweaver
Randwill
View Profile
Inner circle
1915 Posts

Profile of Randwill
Quote:
On 2004-10-13 16:44, multiply wrote:
Interesting, Randwill.
'Bestine' sounds like the stuff I'm looking for. Does anyone in the UK know where this can be obtained, please?


In the US it's "Bestine Solvent and Thinner" made by Union Rubber, Inc. in Trenton, N.J. The can says "Heptane Formula", for whatever that's worth. I buy it at any art supply store, where you can also get the arm preparation fluid. I'd imagine a similar product would be available at art supply stores in the UK.

And although it does clean the arm very well of traces of the preparation, the can carries a warning to avoid skin contact. So I'd advise cleaning the arm with soap and water as soon as possible after a performance.

I don't know if Harry Anderson (or anybody) used this solvent to clean the arm after removing the needle. On the tape I have of Harry's performance he uses a cloth to clean the arm and then displays his arm to the audience. I hit on the idea of using a folded paper towel with the Bestine poured on it for my performances because using a dry cloth to remove the prep seemed rougher on my skin, and didn't get all of it off. I didn't want to leave any clues for the people close enough to see.

So far I've suffered no adverse health effects...

GA, GA, GA...

drooooowl

:)
multiply
View Profile
Loyal user
England (Olde!)
202 Posts

Profile of multiply
Thanks again. I did go to an art-shop yesterday and they suggested I use something that would probably have taken every skin layer off my arm (and half the bone as well)!!! I couldn't really explain why I wanted it for 'on skin' use of course, but they hadn't heard of anything that is suitable for specifically removing 'the stuff'.
Anyway, next time I'm in the US, I'll pick up some bestine. Just hope it doesn't prompt awkward questions in airport security!! Smile
Thanks again,
Gary
Gary B
rmoraleta
View Profile
Special user
Philippines
767 Posts

Profile of rmoraleta
Well, here on the Philippine T.V. it will be done with a Barbecue stick!
Jeff J.
View Profile
Special user
Connecticut
787 Posts

Profile of Jeff J.
I have the Viking version. Does anyone know if the Viking is a ripoff of Anderson or vice-versa?

Also, I wonder why all the ethical folks who have been popping up lately aren't all over one of the versions of this trick as being a "ripoff".
MentaThought
View Profile
Special user
615 Posts

Profile of MentaThought
Quote:
On 2004-10-14 19:08, rmoraleta wrote:
Well, here on the Philippine T.V. it will be done with a Barbecue stick!


You could also use a stale string of bad pancit. Smile
"A good mentalist ... will teach you a miracle because he understands the subtleties ..." -- Banachek

"If this works it'll be BEAUTIFUL!" - The Amazing Kreskin on a stunning effect he performed on his 1970s television series (PS: it worked)
rmoraleta
View Profile
Special user
Philippines
767 Posts

Profile of rmoraleta
Nice one Menta Thought!

Are you Filipino?
Slim King
View Profile
Eternal Order
Orlando
17686 Posts

Profile of Slim King
Does the voodoo version look different? If so ,how?
Thanks
Dave
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
alxfoo
View Profile
New user
Singapore
35 Posts

Profile of alxfoo
There's a Dave Powell’s Needle Through Arm trick selling at murphysmagicsupplies... izzit the same needle thru arm by harry anderson? or which is better?
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Tricks & Effects » » Harry Anderson's Deluxe Needle Through Arm (0 Likes)
 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2021 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.15 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL