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IanL New user Washington State 84 Posts |
I don't know what it is, but my Mexican Turnover doesn't fool anyone.
I don't see that I'm doing anything wrong, but I'm just not fooling anybody. Maybe I need to take the heat off my hands and employ a little more eye contact/misdirection. Any suggestions? |
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michaelmystic2003 Inner circle 3062 Posts |
Speed and fluidity are key... particularly fluidity. Do it in one smooth, confident action... give it a shot!
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts |
What are you using it for?
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Eric Fry Regular user 191 Posts |
Plus, you need a reason for flipping over a card while holding another card. Are your routines that use a Mexican turnover constructed so that you have a good reason for holding the deck in one hand and holding a card in the other hand?
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
If you have a copy of Expert Card Technique, read their description of the Mexican Turnover; it'll likely improve your technique.
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Bertrand Thornley Loyal user Tampa, FL 278 Posts |
When first reading the post heading it struck me as funny. It sounds like you're asking for culinary advice.
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Doc Dixon Special user Pennsylvania, USA 655 Posts |
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On 2009-09-13 16:56, Bertrand Thornley wrote: Then it would read, "My empanada sucks." |
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
We have a lot more Influx than Turnover here in California!
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IanL New user Washington State 84 Posts |
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On 2009-09-13 16:56, Bertrand Thornley wrote: I suppose I could improve my baking too... But I'm thinking cards today |
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IanL New user Washington State 84 Posts |
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On 2009-09-13 13:53, Whit Haydn wrote: I was using it as part of a tabled force, switching the force card for a free choice. After checking out a few examples on youtube, I think I need to work on fluidity (as suggested on this thread already). I'm going to work on smoothing it out. Some folks seem to let the cards fall over. I think I'm grabbing at it, tipping the method. |
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nique Special user Singapore 940 Posts |
I saw a handling credited to Steranko (I think) on magic video depot that looked very deceptive. Might be worth checking that out.
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Ben Train Inner circle Erdnase never had 4639 Posts |
A major part of making this move deceptive is the structure of the routine. Think of a top change- in a poorly structured routine the move is obvious. In a well structured routine though... invisible.
Switching a card just selected using the MT, although I don't know the exact blocking, sounds like a bad use of the move. There's a lot of heat on the card (or so it sounds) and it would take a lot to justify why your turning over the card the way you are. Ben
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
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On 2009-09-13 22:11, nique wrote: Page 4 "Steranko on Cards" |
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts |
Senator Crandall has an excellent handling, which is shown on my DVD on the Three Card Monte.
But this move is not really meant to be done UNDER FIRE. Three-card monte guys use it in the off-beat--to show that the card the spectator would have chosen, had he had the nerve to bet, would have been the right card--"You've got the eyes, but not the heart!" They usually don't try to show that the spectator's actual bet was wrong. Once there is money down or any kind of personal investment, the spectator will be looking for a switch, or a change of some kind and will object to any "funny" stuff. Cracker Parker, who ran the Oxford Street mob in London for nearly thirty years, said that once the money is down, the spectator has to turn the card, or "there will be Claret in the street." Only when the whole mob has the player under complete dominance will such a move be used on the "chosen" card. Under fire, most switches like the Mexican turnover, the Flip and the Flip Forward, the Curry Change and so forth will not work. They are only really effective in the off-beat moments, or when the attention is divided as when two cards are turned over at the same time. To use this move to switch a free choice for a force is probably not going to be too convincing. It is the exact moment of focus. Your Mexican turnover may not be so terrible. It may just be that it is not the right move for the situation. The "importance" of the display may make the move too suspicious. |
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AlexMack24 New user Auckland, New Zealand 56 Posts |
^^^
As always, fantastic advice. OP, you should follow this. |
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MarvinWang Loyal user 274 Posts |
Check Juan Tamariz's work, he has a routine on this move.
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Mike Powers Inner circle Midwest 2983 Posts |
You might check out the video of "Mexican Assembly" at:
http://www.mallofmagic.com/cardcorner/ccvid010.html I use four Mexican Turnovers in quick succession. I have found that the technique I employ is a bit more deceptive than the standard. Note how the tabled card is lifted onto the palm of the left hand. Mike
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IanL New user Washington State 84 Posts |
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On 2009-09-14 00:03, Whit Haydn wrote: Excellent point. Context always matters, doesn't it? I'm probably better off looking for another method of switching the card. The heat is pretty heavy the way I'm doing it. |
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IanL New user Washington State 84 Posts |
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On 2009-09-14 10:59, Mike Powers wrote: What I like best about your method is that the card used to turn the other doesn't seem out of place. Very clean. |
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tabman Inner circle USA 5946 Posts |
A card mechanic might do the straight move every time he or she turns a card over so when you actually do the move the heat is off. It looks normal.
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