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Ok a version without any gimmick (and another idea). Just a paper napkin and a deck of cards.
I credit Gerald Deutsch, who is no longer with us for the first part.
i would crimp a card or if you want to make your life easier force a short corner card.

Overhand shuffle the deck and injog a card above the selection and below the selection, about half an inch.
Put the deck in the left hand. This slight injog should not be visible to the audience from the front. Have a paper napkin prepared. Some, including Gerald do not like a napkin or hankie. this effect is VERY clean if you cover the injogged cards. But it is not easy to cover about 2 plus inches of injogged cards while you are pushing up with a finger, etc. So make it easy and grab the top edges (at the top edge of the deck) of the deck with the thumb and forefinger. next, while covering the bottom of the deck, with the napkin, loosely wrap it around the bottom half of the deck, at the same time pulling the two plunger cards out about 2+ inches. now the bottom of the deck is covered in a napkin, everything is visible and there is nothing to hide. While applying just a little tension to the deck, the selection will rise. Push down slowly on the palm of the hand not holding the deck, or continue this on a table or on any object. lEt it rise slowly. You can do this completely surrounded. No threads, no gimmicks. Bob G, you made me work hard for you. hehe.
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Countrymaven,

Thanks for working so hard for me! Smile I appreciate it very much. I like your idea of injogging the cards only slightly but later injogging them further under the cover of the napkin. I'll give this a try.

Best Regards,

Bob
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The justification for the napkin can be, "this cant work if I touch the cards...." Plus, you obviously are not literally touching the cards. The idea is, the napkin is just a way of not touching the cards. Actually, it lets you do this clean and surrounded, without having to resort to the old top card "rise" from the deck. then you can immediately hand them the deck. and napkin if you like.
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I see what you mean: the remark provides a reason to use the napkin, thus misdirecting from the real reason. I think it would be quite mysterious even without the remark, though.
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This is one trick where gaffs are 100% worth it for the purity of the effect.
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Not sure I follow you, Mike. Care to elaborate?

Bob
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On Jul 15, 2021, Bob G wrote:
Not sure I follow you, Mike. Care to elaborate?

Bob

You cannot get a more perfect closeup effect than the Devano rising cards. Some people don't want to use gaffs under any circumstances, but I think it is well worth it for a good rising card effect.
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Hi MIke, I like the Devano rising cards. People really like it. But in the method I shared above, I have had people think they were watching a witch. PLUS HANDING the cards/napkin to them and doing this surrounded. It all comes down to presentation.
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Mike,

I'm pretty sure I have the Devano Rising Cards -- or at least *some* kind of "mechanical" deck. It's taken me some time to realize that, at least in this early-ish phase of my magic education, I prefer not to use gaffs. Not even sure why -- it's just a personal quirk. But you're not the first person on the Café who has expressed the thought that some tricks are just more effective with gaffs than with pure sleight of hand, so I'm quite willing to believe that it's true.


The deck that I mentioned made the cards rise quite quickly, and thus didn't give the eerie, haunted (witch-like, as countrymaven said) feeling that I was after.

See you,

Bob
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Since the Devano deck was mentioned, we're getting into gaffville. Kundalini Rising from McBride uses a normal deck and that "special something." I think Dave Solomon might have a similar version. These ideas create a very mysterious looking rising card and are FASDIU. There's another one with a piece of monofilament on a pull in your sleeve. Again, the deck is normal. These are good alternatives to a completely ungaffed method.

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I looked up McBride's effect on the Vanishing Magic site, and boy, it sounds impressive (and comes with impressive testimonials). The card rises while the spectator holds the deck! Mike (Powers), do you have experience with this method? I'm curious how well it works, how spectator-figuring-it-out-proof it is, and whether the gimmick is durable.

In the meantime, I'm working on the two-handed rise in Expert Card Technique, which is more or less what countrymaven suggested.


Thanks,

Bob
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My experience is the rising card effect is influenced by the presentation and how the card rises. I have tried one where the gaff is in the deck (not Devano) but it just rose too quick and choppy. I would suggest that "failing at first" and NOT having the card rise in the gaffless method I shared really helps. Then having it eerily start to rise, switching hands, etc. HEre the way the card rises and its exact timing is almost completely under your control, unlike most other methods.
I know that it seems that the gaffed method is the best here and I am not denying the right one can't be. But at the same time with a certain presentation I have found the gaffless, surrounded, no gimmick one will blow people away if done right.
I actually appreciate the gentlemen mentioning gaffed versions. You are correct we are after the magic. Not on ticking a box on the MC. Thanks Mike as well. I Need to try the Kundalini and see how that plays.!!!
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Kundalini can start with a deck in play, add the special something, and then get away with it after the card rises. And, as mentioned, the spectator holds the boxed deck. I think that Jeff recommends using a partial deck. I've seen him do it a few times. Sometimes the spec holds the boxed deck too tightly and he tries to get them to loosen up without saying, "You're holding the box too tightly" which starts exposing the method. If you hold the deck, there are no problems. Solomon's solution involves putting a gaffed pair of cards in play. Then you cop them out and you're clean. The rise looks pretty magical in both cases.

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Good to know -- thanks, Mike. Copping is certainly in my future -- I keep finding tricks I want to perform but leaving them alone because I don't know how to get gimmicks out of play. I'm very happy, though -- I now have enough skills that lots of wonderful tricks *are* within my reach. By the way, your on-line collection of video tutorials on sleights (associated with Genii??) has been really useful to me, and will continue to be.

Bob
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Enjoyable as always, Pop. This clearly can't have been done by any physical means known to the human race, so I am now a believer in the Spirit World.


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If you are a magician, why wouldn't you make the card rise out of the deck and FALL out? Seeing the card rise above looks good, then the drama falls flat like a deflating balloon. IMHO>
I like to do this in my version of rising cards. What do you think? or feel (since most magicians shoot off the hip or justify based on, so and so's version did it this way......)?
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On Jul 26, 2021, countrymaven wrote:
If you are a magician, why wouldn't you make the card rise out of the deck and FALL out?


I can think of two potential reasons.

(1) In terms of the magical argument, let's say I'm capable of real magic, and I can make the selected card rise from the deck. Why would I want it to fall out? I want it in my hands, why not just have it come to my hands?

(2) In terms of visual clarity, there's the Tommy Wonder idea of removing as many distractions as possible at the point of reveal. When he does the card from egg, he actually has a double-facer, for the simple reason that he wants the card to be recognizable instantly, without any extra beat that would be required from turning it over if it came out face-down. But if it falls out...?
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Yes do the magic man up, let the card rise up and fall out of the deck. it shocks people. no excuses needed if you can't do it.
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