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Robin Parker
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Thank goodness for the US Playing Card Co. They produce great cards and they therefore help to employ many performers and entertain even more card fans.



I was wondering what the quality of cards is like in other countries, specifically European. I’ve had several decks from Russia (they are c**p) and I’ve seen cards from China & India. They are best used for toilet paper once softer. What are the cards of UK like?
Wallace
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May I recommend the Fournier cards manufactured in Spain. These are often used by Juan Tamariz which is a good recommendation, IMO.

An added advantage is that Fournier actually PRINTS an assortment of fakes which match the regular decks EXACTLY in colour and quality, their quality control is first grade.

If you have encountered a Dekram Deck you will have seen the standard 505 patterned deck.

Hope this helps. Smile

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I've seen those cards Wallace, they are pretty nice, though I still prefer Rider backs. Smile
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Carta Mundi of Belgium produces a very nice card with a very nice feel. They do a lot of advertising decks for companies in both Europe and the US. Atlantis is one of their commercial brands.
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where do you find these cool cards?
Paul
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The Carta Mundi cards vary in quality, thought the Alantis cards are good and what Duvivier uses.



The Piatnik bridge size cards are not bad and were very popular in the UK at one time. They're poker size cards I found did not handle as well though.



Are the Fournier cards and gaffs available outside Spain Wallace?
martinkaplan
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Here is a link to R. Somerville Playing Cards - now located in France. They have over 2000 different decks in stock. They have the Fournier gaffed cards and you can purchase them on line.



http://www.playingcardsales.co.uk/magic2.htm
Damion Corbett
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If you were to walk into a convenience store in the UK for a pack of cards, you would find that they are c**p.

Most decks that are generally available are cheap looking and quite rigid.

Just out of interest, can you pick up a pack of Bikes at a corner store in the U.S. or do you need to buy them from a magic shop like we do in the UK?
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Tony
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Bicycle and Bee cards can be found at bigger drug toy and retail stores as they're being used for playing and very little for magic---how quickly we forget Smile

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Being a tight-fisted Scot I really hate destroying a decent deck when doing a T&R or Warp.

I found a supply of Jumbo cards in 99 Cent Stores in California (costs 99c of course)
and the name on the case is Toy Choice Products Commerce, CA 90023 Item #11279

Available in blue or red backs in a sort of Aviator style the deck is made of softer pasteboard than normal but still great value. You can see a picture of one card in action here
http://www.magicities.com/lbmagic/WarpedQueen.swf
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I'm from the UK and (correct me if I'm wrong) one of the main suppliers of cards here is a company that makes cards called 'No. 1'.

Maybe they should add a few 0's to the one, because they're definitely not the best decks for card handling at all.

That's why I stick to Bikes, Bees and I'm about to test out Tally Ho's.

Thanks and I hope that this answers your question...
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In Singapore, Bee and Aladin are readily available... but, Bee does not have a white border around the back... this is a disadvantage right?

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In the United States it is rather rare to see a deck of cards that are not Bicycle.
So, I prefer to have most of my gimmicks in the Bicycle format because as it was stated earlier you can find Bicycle cards in almost every pharmacy and grocery store around. thus it doesn't arouse suspicion as a deck of cards that somone wasn't familiar with would.
Garrett Nelson
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JW:
Not having a white border is a disadvantage for magic because a reversed card sticks out like a sore thumb. For gambling demonstrations, however, borderless cards are generally preferred.
Paul
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People are not that brand conscious in the U.K. To the viewer, a pack of cards is a pack of cards.

Waddington's No. 1 cards were the best deck here years ago but the quality started to fluctuate (as with Bikes now.) Most corner shops have cheap low quality Hong Kong decks.

Usually the "own brand" of cards sold in W.H. Smiths newsagents are good quality, and recently they even sold patience cards (half size) with the same back design. They are probably made by Carta Mundi.

I was personally thinking of stopping using Bikes.

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I´m interested in how much a deck of Bicycle and Tally Ho cards cost now in the U.S.?
Can you give me an average price indication?
Here in Austria/Germany a deck costs 3.30 U.S.$ (3,75 Euro) - Tally Ho´s are a bit cheaper (3,30 Euro).
In Austria of course Piatnik are used mainly (it´s an Austrian company), but more by hobby magicians... the ones with more
"professional" approach use Bikes or Tallys. Often seen (more with mental magicians) are Aviator or also steamboat cards.
Martin

Forgot one information:
for the German speaking countries and around them, there is one high quality card shop -it´s situated in Germany and you can find many sorts of cards at a pretty fair price:
http://www.card-connection.de/
give also a good overview (with pictures) how the cards look like!
Martin

Another forgotten one (I should go to bed...) A very nice Website about history of playing cards can be found at
http://www.djmcadam.com/playing-cards.html
with very, very much information about all sort of cards (with a special about Smile cards) - have a look it´s worth it!
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I can walk to the grocery store here, and pick up a deck of Bikes or Aviators for $2.00. Or I can go to Costco (a giant warehouse store) and by 12 packs of Bikes for $13.00, Or I can order them from various websites,
http://www.kardwell.com
and get them for about a $1.00 a pack, but then I have to add shipping to that.

I hope this answers your question. If I really tried, I could probably find them cheaper.

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Paul
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Saw a fun deck last night, apparently they were available from the Next clothing chain around Xmas. The cards were thin clear plastic!

The pips were all in like a central diamond shape. This was black on the back of the card with the "Next" logo in the middle, which also made it a one way deck. The clear area on the cards seemed to add something to those double lifts I can tell you. When you can see your hand through the card how could anyone expect there could be another card there?

Apparently they have none locally, but if they have a NEXT store in your town (in England) worth checking out.

Paul Hallas.
phonic69
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And Paul, being plastic they don't crease or bend when you palm them, nor do they get dirty! They are a great addition to your collection, I got some from WOW, again they were a one way deck but they didn't have any advertising on them - first class! I use Bikes simply because all the double backed cards and gimmicked decks seem to come out in that format. Personally, Waddingtons are just as good as Piatnik, but whatever works for you.
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Oh, and another thing... heres a question for everyone:


what colour/size cards do you use? Personally I like blue backs in poker size but thats just my preference!

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