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boppies2 Elite user Arizona 422 Posts |
It seems Hotots are not easy to get in my area. Nederlander dwarfs and Mini Rex are more popular. So that's probably the direction I'll go. I am familiar with the ND, but know little about the Mini Rex, its characteristics and nature.
Greatscott what make rabbit pan do you use and how long do you keep your mini rex in it before the production? Max |
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greatscott Special user 595 Posts |
I have had my rabbit pan so long, that I don't remember who the manufacturer was. Sorry.
I load my rabbit just before the show, and I normally do a 45 minute show. The rabbit production is the last thing I do in the show. So, my rabbit is loaded in the pan between 45-60 minutes. That is for an indoor show, or an outdoor show during cooler months. Never have the rabbit loaded that long fo an outdoor show, if it is hot outside. A mini rex is a great breed of rabbt. I love the one that I use at shows. |
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
Some rabbit pans have air hole(s) but others do not. I have a Morrissey Rabbit Pan and it does not have air holes. I do not leave my rabbit in it very long. Usually I make the rabbit production at the 2nd or 3rd routine in my show. If I were going to wait until the end I would have an air-hole model, or add some holes myself. Plus, aluminum heats up very fast. If you are performing outdoors in the sunshine please be careful. I would suggest not waiting until the end of the show. Also, if you use fire in the pan it will heat up very fast!
Regan
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TrickyRicky Inner circle TrickyRicky 1653 Posts |
Hi Regan.
I also use the Morrissey Pan. Bore a large hole on top of the knob. I have a 1/4 inch on mine. Hope this helps. TrickyRicky |
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greatscott Special user 595 Posts |
Mine actually was made with air holes in the top of it. It works great
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boppies2 Elite user Arizona 422 Posts |
Living in the Phoenix area, obviously I do not perform outside with bunnies in the summertime. I used a Morrissey dove pan for a while. But I liked the style,looks and handling of the Viking Dove pan better. Since I like the Viking pan, I will probably get a Viking Rabbit pan. Both have air holes in them. Type of pan is probably more of a personal preference.
My concern is the the Mini Rex will be comfortable for about 10 minutes into the show. I never knew Bunnies could be kept in a pan for 45-60 minutes. If I was to use fire, it would only be a small piece of flash paper. But I am not sure I want to go that route. Max |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
I've used them both and the Hoto eyes looks like the rabbit uses Mary Kaye products.
Other than the eyes, there are not much difference.
Dennis Michael
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greatscott Special user 595 Posts |
I have never had a problem keeping my rabbit in the pan for the length of time that I do. He fits the pan nicely, and is quite comfortable. I normally place a cloth in the bottom of the pan, for added comfort. I never use fire in my pan, and I never use the pan outdoors, on hot days. Doing an indoor, climate controlled, show, there is no problem with discomfort for thr rabbit.
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boppies2 Elite user Arizona 422 Posts |
Thank you all for your input, comments and suggestions.
I am now down to adding either a Holland Lop(dwarf) or Mini Rex. Max |
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greatscott Special user 595 Posts |
Holland lops are good too. I have a few of them, and they are, normally, a very calm and well mannered rabbit.
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
I read in a rabbit book that the mini-rex's are high strung, and will bite and scratch more than other small rabbits.
Dennis Michael
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greatscott Special user 595 Posts |
I have heard a few people say that as well. But, my experience is just the opposite. Right now, I have 5 mini rex's, and I have not had a problem with any of them. They are very well behaved. The only rabbits that I have had any problem with, is a couple of my netherland dwarfs have tried to bite me. But, as I said earlier, rabbits are like people, in the fact that they each have their own personalities (even among the same breed).
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boppies2 Elite user Arizona 422 Posts |
Greatscott do you prefer working with a mini rex over a Holland lop?
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greatscott Special user 595 Posts |
I personally, do like the mini rex better. I have been working with the same mini rex for the past 4 years. You can see a picture of him on the home page of my website (if you like). The reason I like my mini rex better is for a couple of reasons. The mini rex coat is different then most other rabbits, it feels like velvet. Also, my mini rex is very well trained. He poses when he is produced, and if I place him on one of my side tables, he will stay right there, until I come to get him. He will not try to jump off like a lot of other rabbits do.
If you go by audience reaction, the mini rex, and the holland lop both have their strong points. If I was starting out new, I would probably have a hard time deciding which one to use. |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
In my experience, the males were more aggressive than the females, and like Ken said about the Netherland Dwarf, I had a real nasty one who scratched and bit you every time he could. It could never be trusted in a show.
Dennis Michael
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
Dennis, I have only had one female Netherland and she the most aggresive one I ever had. I have never wanted another one since. I have owned about 6 males and have not had a problem with any of there behavior. Weird, isn't it. Just like dogs, cats, and everything else, I guess rabbit's personalities can vary greatly within the breed or sex. It could even be that the bloodline from a particular breeder could be the determining factor.
Regan
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RJE Inner circle 1848 Posts |
The more rabbits I have owned, the more I have come to the conclusion that there does not seem to be an easy answer to the disposition of breed and sex.
We have had gentle females and gentle males. We have had aggressive females and aggressive males. We have had Mini Lops, Netherland Dwarfs and Dwarf Hotots. They all get treated with the same loving care, yet it is becoming increasingly difficult to recommend a gentle breed or sex. Currently, our favourite is a male hotot. Great little fellow with a wonderful personality. The little female hotot we have is more skitterish. Netherland Dwarfs have been all over the map. Once had a male that just putting your hand in his cage would be an adventure in not getting bit. Had two females and one was an angel and the other a devil. Mini Lop male thought he was a dog. He would come to be petted and beg for treats. So, from my personal experience anyway, there doesn't seem to be a pattern to expected behaviour from any particular breed or gender that I have had. |
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boppies2 Elite user Arizona 422 Posts |
I had a female Nederland Dwarf - she was an angel and wonderful to work with. When she passed I got a male who thought he was King Kong, attacked everyone, so I couldn't use him. A breeder told me that they have a tendency to become more aggressive when they become adults.
They both got the same loving care from the same people. I am in the process of looking at Mini lops and Mini Rex. Although I think it will be a difficult decision, I am leaning towards the Mini Rex. |
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greatscott Special user 595 Posts |
The problem that I have experienced, with agressive netherland dwarfs, has always been in the female. I have one, now, that jumps at you if you just get close to the cage. Putting your hand in the cage, for most people, would be out of the question. She actually bit me last week. I will have to say, that in all the years I have raised rabbits, she is the first to ever bite me. That rabbit is looking for a new home now (I don't keep rabbits that bite).
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
Scott, that was what happened with my female Netherland. She never actually bit me but I was afraid of her. She was really hateful and wanted to be left alone. Out of the 6 or 7 Netherland bucks I have had there has not been one that has been aggressive. I currently have 2, and all the other bucks died of old age but they never got agressive even when they were older.
The more I am hearing about this the more I am thinking that it really may depend upon breeding and genetics. The bloodline may have a lot to do with it. I know I owned a Sheltie once that was a terror. His father was the same way, and he got the agression gene also! Peoepl were shocked at him because Shelties are not supposed to be agressive. I had to muzzle him when we took him to the vet, or anywhere else for that matter. Regan
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