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James Peters
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I just wanted to say, I used a set of these handcuffs for the first time yesterday, as part of a new routine, and they are superb!

Easy to use, and you can lock them on anyone else without worrying about it or even having to misdirect them!

They are quite expensive, but in comparison to the other stuff out there, they are far superior!

Thanks to Ian! A brilliant piece of workmanship!!! Smile

James.
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Yes James, Ian does nice work and also has great ideas. Don, Smile
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The ADA-100's are like an American Express card for me....I don't leave home without them! I hated losing them in my luggage! But, I do have another pair now!

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Dear James, Margarette and Don, thanks for your thoughts and comments on the S&W ADA.

It is great to hear that my work is being put to practical use.
Best wishes to all

Ian
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These are the ones sold by Cannon Escapes?
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Ian is the manufacturer and they are only sold at Cannons. He actualy makes them for each person based on their wrist size, hence the higher cost. Lots of folks like them real well.

I only use real cuffs and irons, so I don't have any myself. My wife might feel better if I had gimmicked stuff. I like the thought and ingenuity that goes into gimmicks, I just don't find any personal satisfaction when using them.
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I love them so much I got three. I usually tighten them on myself when performing so that the clicking sound (one way) is minimized during escape.
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Thanks all....I didn't think about the noise they make while escaping.....havent not seen a demo, does the noise detract from the performance at all or is it just personal preference?

Can these be escaped from in full view or does one have to be under cover?

Thanks

WC
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Hi,
This entire thing about noise or no noise really does not matter although there are certainly those who would like to believe or claim that it does.

Nor does the fact of wether or not the cuffs can be pulled on or not after they are locked on your wrists. A good performer can properly present a handcuff escape where the cuffs are visibly locked into each other and then passed for inspection with no one finding anything. The cuffs can then be locked onto the performer and escape can be done in a matter of seconds and the audience feels all is fair because the cuffs have indeed been "inspected" before hand.

The need to have handcuffs inspected first, then locked onto someone else, then locked onto yourself and then pulled on by someone is a pile of ridiculous overkill that is simply not needed.

I think what a lot of people here forget is that we, as escapologists, are not performing for other escapists. Rather, we are performing for audiences of LAY PEOPLE.

Too many in escapes seem overly concerned with the technical side of stuff or which gimmicked prop is "superior" that they miss what is far more important. Namely... ENTERTAINING.

PM me and I will share a very effective cuff escape which does not require a super expensive handcuff.

Steve Santini
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Thanks Steve....
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Hello All

Weather or not you you decide to go w/ a gaffed cuff of not, again is really up to the individuales taste.
Remember your soul purpose of being on the stage is ... to "Entertaine em"

The surest way to create suspection is to...over prove, Just get on with it.

It is certinaly Great to know though that we have the 'Jimmy Collins of our time" available, namely Mr. Ian McColl.


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Dear Michael, thank you for your kind words. I hope that my work assists in creating some mystifying escapes which enable those who perform to in fact entertain.

Entertainment is the name of the game, however if everyone entertained with only the same equipment year after year it would get very boring and familiar with the audiences.
The in/out oval loop is an example but recently a variation of this was made which begs the question, why? If only entertainment was the goal.

Variation is the spice of life and some escape artists like to both baffle the audience and any escape artist who gets to see them perform. The more technical the equipment, the more it can open up the performance. If not the actual act but before and after. Even if this before and after doesn’t reach the whole audience, those who it does effect will go on to tell others.

A great example of this was at the Indy EAC 2004 where a police officer was asked to assist with the feature act. The officer was freely given a pair of gimmicked cuffs and told at what point in the show they would be required. In the 45 minutes that passed, this officer played and pulled at the handcuff while sitting and watching the show.

The officer pushed the bow in a few notches, pulled back on the cuff, clicked a few more notches and pulled back. When the bow was almost all the way through, the officer swung the bow right around and started the whole procedure again. When ask to come up on stage, the officer swore that the handcuffs were legitimate.

For those who witnessed this 45 minute examination either those in the know or laypersons, the story they tell will be one of an honest examination and that there was no influence or “controlling” by the performer. As I know this story, it is proof that a good word gets around.

Regards

Ian
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To all,
Like I said before, and it always holds true, is that if one presents ANY escape with skillfull showmanship, that escape will stand a far better chance of going over REGARDLESS of what sort of gaffed equipment is used in it's execution.

It is of course up to all concerned, but I have always found it usefull to rely first on one self and then on gaffed gear. As this is the Magic Café, anyone in other forms of magic will readilly tell you that you can have the neatest gaffed whatever in your hands but that does not mean you are even skilled enough to begin to work with it.

It is a fact that escapists, or any other form of magicians WITHOUT gaffed props or with limited gaffed props naturally become better show people because they have to learn the much more important aspects of performing; namely, pure skill, misdirection of a high order, and showmanship.

The above are ALL qualities that NO gaffed cuff or lock can teach you, no matter how expensive it is, or however claimed, "superior" it is.

Perhaps many in escapes have never heard the name of one Mr. Tony Slydini. This late, great magical entertainer grew up in rural Italy and had no idea at all about the existance of gimmicked or gaffed props. This lack of knowledge and resources translated into a truly unique performer who was versatile and who could work with practically anything under any situation.

Perhaps the same should apply to escapes. With the "look Ma, I bought it off the shelf so I'm an escape artist" approach the world will be full of nothing but mere clone acts each doing EXACTLY what the others before and after do. If this is to be the future of escapes, then it is a dismal future to say the least.

Now I am sure that anyone even remotely skilled in any branch of the magical arts will tell you that it is not the prop itself but instead the limitations or skill of the performer using it that determine if the presentation of it before an audience will be a dismal failure or something to write home about. Anyone thinking otherwise is simply fooling themselves.

In case any out there want to save a PILE of money and wish to perform a handcuff escape with no picks and keys which IS examinable please get in touch with me and I will share a method I have used with constant success for many years.

I will share this for FREE in the hopes it will teach escapists out there to rely more on audience psychology and presentation as opposed to fancy "over the moon" tricked props.


Steve Santini
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I guess it just proves the old saying 'It's not WHAT you do, it's HOW you do it'.

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"Correct"!

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The secret to any escape or magic in general is believability of what you are doing. The ability to hand out and have shackles/manicles examined is very much a necessity.
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Hi Steve,

Its good to see you posting here again, and I want to wish you well with the new Escaporium. I realy appreciate your advice on entertaining. Over the last two years I have learned much on all of the technical aspects, but what I have lacked from the beggining is solid knowledge on entertaining and I truely appreciate the help you are so generous with when it comes to folks like me that are just getting going.

Its Very nice to hear this info from someone with solid , escape focused, time in the trenches doing escapes.

PS. I'm in on the method so PM me too.
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Hi and thanks for the kind words,

These postings by me are going to rare events as I am too busy doing shows and running The Escaporium to take the time to keep on nor does it often behoove me to do so.

The only reason I even posted on this topic and have PM'd a number of people, yourself included, is I wanted to try and present an alternative.

I was talking to a very well know illusionist yesterday and he said (and I quote), "I have never seen a branch of magic so willing to ignore resources and those that provide them as much as escapists do".

What he meant was it seems that many in escapes stay with one source for info, one euipment supplier, one guru who teaches or advises them, etc.

The illusionist I was speaking to was of the opinion that doing this sort of thing was stupid because it distanced one from the opinions and ideas of others. He went on to reason that in such a limited field one should take advantage of every scrap of knowledge and experience that is out there and not dismiss any one person's ideas or methodology just because "so and so" said this about them or "so and so" sells the "superior" stuff.

I wonder when many people in escapes may start to wise up and change the way they think? Knowledge is power and there is no single "one right way" of doing things. Sure, there are many who claim to be, to make, to offer to sell, or to otherwise present "the superior" but why stick with only these people and limit your own knowledge and growth. To hold or continue maintain such a position is not logical and only limits one's journey as a performer.

Regards, Steve Santini
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Maby other folks may be too lame or ch%$!&^~$%# to say it. But I'm not, you have been missed here very much.

Thats the kind of thinking and input a new guy like me
can put to use.

Mike
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On 2004-05-15 15:56, SANTINI wrote:



I was talking to a very well know illusionist yesterday and he said (and I quote), "I have never seen a branch of magic so willing to ignore resources and those that provide them as much as escapists do".

What he meant was it seems that many in escapes stay with one source for info, one euipment supplier, one guru who teaches or advises them, etc.



This is a common malady with magicians in general and escapists in particular.
Our better appreciation of EVERYONE involved in our art (in whatever capacity)
tends to increase as we become more experienced. Or, to put it another way, why put all your eggs in one basket?
There is some great information and advice in this thread, and on this forum, but not everyone will make full use of it.
Some enthusiasts enjoy the art as a hobby (maybe one of several hobbies). If and when this turns into a serious pursuit (ie., money earning!) the EA should start to take a wider interest in all that is available, and that must include good equipment and good advice. Both are available from the right people. Smile

Regards

Riley
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