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Servaas Koomen
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Hi all

a few days ago I went to the local magic club for the first time. it was really nice, friendly people also, and I may visit again or become a member, but...

I was hoping to find some people with the same attitude towards magic, more focused on creating your own material and create your own style. that I didn't find there (yet).

do you have some advice on how to connect to the right people?
"The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion. That's what most people lack, having the guts to go on and just say they'll go through the pain no matter what" A.
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I believe you just have to mix around more. Not everyone see magic the same way we do. The Magic Café here is a good start.
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What do you want from magic?

I have been thinking long and hard about what sort of performance to give when I show my magic. The most comfortable glove that fits me is as a sort of buffoon who is not sure what will happen but is just as surprised as the audience when the result (which is predetermined) happens.
But add to this my audience (intended) which is a sort of bar crowd come to see a fun show. Some friends of mine have a semi regular cabaret night that is western themed (cowboys) which is a laugh a minute so I have to fit in with this. The idea I have is of a simple country bumpkin who has acquired an illusion off the 'interweb' and is having a go. It's a guillotine that you put a cucumber or vegetable into which gets violently cut in half, then he has to stick his arm in and flip the switch, but he has never done this before. The bumpkin is naturally scared as he doesn't really understand the trick... the comedic tension rises from that.

My point is that from being confined by the context I have to find an act that suits. Sometimes a restriction on what you can do leads to creativity, if I hadn't been made to fit into a western theme I would not of thought of this act. Hanging out in an established concept of magic and performance might not lead to this sort of thing, but at the end of the day it is up to you to be original, not the people you regard as peers.

Creativity comes from within, not without. Seek inspiration from the outside, create from within.

but then again, I'm not an expert by any means
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If you really want to learn from the best, read books by Darwin Ortiz (Strong Magic, Designing Miracles), Dariel Fitzkee (The Fitzkee Trilogy) and Tommy Wonder (Books of Wonder) and many others. Can't get better teachers than those that have been there.
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I would be surprised if there wasn't anyone in a magic club who didn't create their own material - unless it's a brand new club started by all newbies! But those who do all their own stuff may be reluctant to share deeply with someone who has just walked in. If you stick around a while and put yourself out there, they will likely find _you_! Most creative people are just waiting until they find a like mind; if they are there, then they have been waiting a long time for someone like you!

Ed
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Usually in clubs there is a variety of skills, interest and goals.

Check around, watch those that perform. Who is not doing stock lines and use of the stuff seen in many magic shows.

This nearly normal guy uses a mix of stock lines(usually from non magic sources) and unusual props.

I like to add music and musical instruments to my shows. (actually not that unusual anymore)

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Where do you Hail from kind sir?
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You Probably won't find what you want there. I recomend you learn from the magicians that you admire. Watch them perform. READ, READ, READ books will help you find your style. Learning from DVD's and magic circles, is ok, but people tend to copy the same performance style they see, when you read it's your own imagination working. "Connect to the right people" who are those??? it depends on what you want, that's why I advice on learning from those you admire and consider the best.
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Go back to the club a few more times, prepared to “hang out” a bit. They need to get to know you and vise versa. Many of these “normal” nice guys will put on a persona when the curtain goes up that just might surprise you.

But be aware, they may not want to share readily with the new guy. Developing material and style is hard work, and most will not appreciate imitators.

Once you’re accepted, you may find yourself included, almost by accident, in some magical “jam” sessions, where ideas will be flowing faster than you can remember them all. Many of these will not be suitable for one person, but perfect for another, and NO ONE will mind you picking up the threads. You’ll very likely be contributing ideas of your own as well.

In short, be patient. Like minds DO find one another.
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Servaas Koomen
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Ok thanks DWrackley. I was already planning to visit again, because I really had a good time. good chance that it will go down like you say
"The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion. That's what most people lack, having the guts to go on and just say they'll go through the pain no matter what" A.
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Go back and visit again and again. I agree with James, many people put on false fronts when in contact with other people. The more you get to know some of the people in the club, you will be glad to see there are people who think just like you do. Mix again meet. Always strive to be your self in your magic and you will always love what you do. We are all unique, that is what makes life interesting!
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I am struggling with the same kind of thing. I have read good advice about finding a mentor in magic. Unfortunately, I know no one in the field. Other than talking to a few people who answer the phone at the mail-order places, I haven't even spoken to a live person.
There is not any real magic shops around me. I am not sure if there are any clubs around, but there probably is if I drive an hour or two.
Any suggestions would be great. Thanks.
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On 2009-10-25 18:29, Ruldar wrote:
I am struggling with the same kind of thing. I have read good advice about finding a mentor in magic. Unfortunately, I know no one in the field. Other than talking to a few people who answer the phone at the mail-order places, I haven't even spoken to a live person.
There is not any real magic shops around me. I am not sure if there are any clubs around, but there probably is if I drive an hour or two.
Any suggestions would be great. Thanks.


Where are you?
Ruldar
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I'm in Tennessee. I found a magic shop two hours away in Atlanta, but its really more of a costume shop that sells some dvds and gimmicks. It doesn't seem like the type of place to have magicians hanging around.
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Okay I have to admit that my knowledge of your area is next to nothing....

but I did find this, hope it helps.

http://www.partypop.com/Categories/Magic......ssee.htm

You could try ringing a few of the magicians and see how helpful they are?

also check this out

http://au.yhs.search.yahoo.com/avg/searc......gic+club
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Hi, Ruldar.

In Tennessee, two hours from Atlanta…hmm, sounds pretty close to Chattanooga, which is where I’m from.

There are indeed magic shops there, one full time for sure, and one I believe is “seasonal”. There is also an IBM group, Ring 112 which meets usually twice a month. The group is small but active, hosting a lecture next week, and planning a close-up show in December.

Let me know if you want more info!

Don
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Ruldar
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Wow. Thanks guys. That is really helpful. I'll follow up on those tips and get back with ya.
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