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cupsandballsmagic Inner circle 2705 Posts |
Anyone ever polished a set of cups while they have a patina? I mean not so that the patina is removed but so that it has a polished finish...
I received a set of cups in the mail this morning with just that finish. I don't know what I think to it just yet but it's different. It's similar to the rainbow finish Gary Animal puts on some cups by heat treating only not as pronounced... I think it may be growing on me as I type! Bri |
Zachary Loyal user 275 Posts |
Are you sure it's not a clear coat? We may need Dr. Palmer to diagnose this one.
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ShawnB Special user 728 Posts |
My cups do this from time to time... They have a dark rich patina but the copper for some reason gets a bit shiny... They are still brown... but shiny. Not the conventional "flat" finsh of othe patinad cups.
I don't think anyone polished the cups you recived. This happens from just regular handling. If you continue to handel them they may turn back bto a flat finish.. That happened to my Sisti's and my Risers. If not you can polish them, remove the patina and start over. Shawn
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BCS Inner circle 1083 Posts |
Hey Bri… It seems with the Cups that I have, the more polished the Cups were originally the more those Cups turn a dark brown with small hints of purple, maroon and purple green colors (maybe the rainbow effect you described). They also have a sheen to them, though they are a mat brown color. I don’t polish these Cups; however I do wash them with dish soap.
The RNt2 Squatty 2 Cups, Older RNT2 Monti Cups and the Riser Traditional Cups all seem to be displaying this trait. The Cups that are not as highly polished turn more of a coffee and cream brown. I hope that I made sense. Bruce |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Some of mine look like that. They start out with a very smooth or even polished surface. Maybe it's the oil from my hands that makes the cups shiny. If you have a set of patinized cups that you are willing to experiment on, rub a little bit of oil into the surface, let it sit for a while, then rub it off. That may do the trick. I've never gotten this kind of finish intentionally, though.
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cupsandballsmagic Inner circle 2705 Posts |
Thanks for the feedback guys...
Yes these were definately polished because Paul (the seller) emailed me and told me they had been polished before posting as they were not very shiny. I don't mean polished with "polish" but on a buffing wheel. The cups are here in the museum: http://69.89.31.132/~cupsandb/museum/showCup.php?id=1175 I really like these cups. I have decided they look kinda cool this way... The light is wrong at the moment, it's been raining all day and I find a flash doesn't show patina too well. To be honest I am not even sure if it will photograph that well but I will try when the light is better. Bri |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
I think Paul did a nice job on those cups. He only made a few sets.
One of the rules of metal finishes is that the finish will only be as good as the metal surface. When you plate something, if you want the plating to be shiny, the surface it is being applied to needs to be shiny as well. The exception is matte finish. It applies something in the finish itself that causes the surface to be less reflective. It may be finely ground silica particles or even talcum powder. Or it may be a way that gets the molecular structure of the plating to form a flat or matte finish.
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Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
dsalley13 Elite user 465 Posts |
When your copper or brass items get to the desired level of patina for your tastes, wax them with Renaissance wax. It's what museums use to preserve and protect the patina on most everything. Your cups will shine up wonderfully, but the wax will cause no loss of the patina that you already have. This wax is best applied with warm hands. A very little amount goes a long way.
Search for "Renaissance Wax" with Google or try eBay. I just replaced a 7 oz. can that I had for 10 years and used for just about everything, so don't let the almost $30.00 a can scare you off. It even preserves the finish of my vintage Hammond organs, benches, and foot pedals. Wonderful stuff! [img]http://www.woodcraft.com/Images/products/08G22.jpg?rand=24934042[/img] dsalley13 |
cupsandballsmagic Inner circle 2705 Posts |
Thanks for the head's up on this. I have seen it mentioned before by Bill (I think), I have been using carnauba wax but I will certainly invest in some of this....
Bri |
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