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Hi Dan,

So nice to see you again old friend.

Thank you so much. I REALLY like the 3 coin Preset as well. I usually start by asking them if they have 3 or more coins. If they say yes, then I say "let me try to predict the first coin you're going to bring out."

I then proceed with the 3 coin prediction EXACTLY like you described it. It's really interesting how people believe there are more then 8 possibilities. Smile

I'm gonna tip one more thing that I do with the 3 coin preset. I do this with 3 old style quarters (the ones with the eagle on the tail side).

I put my left hand face down on the table and ask them to put the coins, one at a time under my hand, while I look away.

Every time they slide the coin under my hand I reposition it while saying, "I'll put this all the way to the left, so we'll have room for the other coins."

Under the cover of my hand, I rub the top of the coin with my right index finger to FEEL if it's heads or tails.

After the last coin, I immediately flip the iPhone over, and very DRAMATICALLY raise my left hand off the table to show the coins.

take care buddy,
Greg Rostami
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We also happen to have eight offices in one of our hallways...

Doing the "think of a person in the office" trick at work gets a good reaction.

The first thing I did after downloading it and learning it last night was put my name, my wife, and my four kids.

I asked my wife to think about one of us... I could read her mind every time Smile
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Hi Dan,

Using peoples names plays really strong with iForce . . . I do it any chance I get.

Greg Rostami
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Hey there Greg, Randy or anyone who may know..What happens if I hit the 'never show again" on the preset screen? By the way when I do the secret move the secon time as instructed after selecting the 2nd preset, I'm not clear on what this screen is for. It's the one with the blue arrows facing to the left. Can someone help me, because it doesn't seem to do what the instructions say? Am I doing something wrong?
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Really great app. I immediately bought it after hearing from it.
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On 2009-10-26 19:28, Greg Rostami wrote:
Hi Philemon,

As Randy and I attempt to hide the Doodle part of iForce from the secret-seekers here is what we've done for you so far.

Randy convinced Apple to change the icon for iForce when you do a search for Doodle. It's REALLY amazing that Apple has agreed to help us with this matter since changing the icon goes against their App distribution policies. This tells me that somebody at Apple really like iForce also . . .

The icon change means when someone looks for "Doodle" on the App store, they will not see a "Doodle" icon; they will see a iForce icon. When this happened even I had a tough time spotting our program on the search list (and I made the iForce graphic).

This is only our first step. We have some other exciting news for our magician friends coming up regarding hiding "Doodle" from your audience . . .

stay tunned,
Greg Rostami

P.S. As we continue to help the magic community hide the secrets of iForce, could you also please do us a favor?

Write comments on the App store, rate iForce, comment on the videos on YouTube, post about iForce on other magic forums. Help Randy and I with this product so that we can continue to develop amazing magic Apps for the iPhone. As I've stated in a previous post . . . iForce was idea number THREE . . . wait until you see idea number ONE & TWO . . .


Greg, sounds great thanks for taking the effort to better disguise this on the app store. It must be like a double-edged sword wanting to move units and at the same time having an effect that is so beloved by the magic community that we are encouraging you to do everything possible to keep this out of the ungrateful hands of the "secret seekers". So my concern is this, at the end of your demo videos on youtube the closing banner shows the following "Now available at the app store for only $2.99" search "iForce" on itunes...not to mention on the 2min 04sec teaser demo not the long one which is fine minus the closing banner, but the shorter one where it states: "iForce is a diabolical magic app for your iphone or ipod touch, cleverly disguised as a simple doodle program, beneath this innocent exterior is the most powerful technology in magic". So it begs the question what can you do to remedy this? It's one thing to have the "secret seekers" search high and low night and day until they hopefully give up their efforts to search for this technology that I and fellow magi truly cherish..but it's quite another thing to set it right in the palm of their hand via youtube. Don't get me wrong I too absolutely love iForce along with everyone else. I can't recall ever being this passionate about keeping a magic/mentalism secret a secret. It's truly a testimonial to you and Randy. Nothing but praise on all of the threads, which would even make it more of a nightmare beyond nightmares to see this exposed on youtube. It would be ashame to have this "diabolical" priciple fall into the hands of the "secret seekers" by virtue of a single left click. My fear is that if this happens we will see a tremendous tool dissoved into a fumbling short-lived effect that the misfits on youtube would bring it to, reducing it to nothing more than the calling out of heads or tales of a simple coin toss.

Thanks for listening...
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Again, this is an amazing app with endless possibilities. I am excited to hear Greg and Randy are already working on a improved version. I would love to contribute some ideas, but since I am new here, I am not sure how much can be said openly, without giving anything away.
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During the presentation of the magic effect, wouldn't it be completely natural to move the iphone a little bit in your direction, or push it a little bit sideways before turning it over? Or lift it up then turn it over? Owners of iForce will know, why this could make a difference...
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On 2009-11-01 06:16, waso wrote:
During the presentation of the magic effect, wouldn't it be completely natural to move the iphone a little bit in your direction, or push it a little bit sideways before turning it over? Or lift it up then turn it over? Owners of iForce will know, why this could make a difference...
Hi waso,

You're welcome to do all those things now. I'll PM you about the rest of your question.

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Yes I can do that now, but it will not change the results (for instance turn up as 9 and 10).
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Hello Jedi friends that use the iForce,

The first of the three missing videos went up last night.

Please make sure you scroll down the video list to see all 8 videos . . . The first video is the iForce Teaser video and the other 7 are instruction videos.

I'm going to finish the other 2 videos by tonight.

I'm very very sorry about the delay, but there's been so much going on in my life these days. By tonight everyone will have ALL the instruction videos.

take care,
Greg Rostami
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Hokay - I'm a happy iPod Touch owner for about a year - haven't spent a dime for any music - or app. I rarely sync because of my particular laptop (I won't go into details). Mostly, I listen to ripped CDs and podcasts (like Magic Newswire, which I heartily recommend).

So, what made me spend a couple of hours reconfiguring my finicky laptop to properly sync with my iPod? And what made me spend more time upgrading my iPod's OS?

Well, all that time spent fiddling with my iPod Touch and my laptop allowed me to just make my first purchase ever of an iPod Touch App - iForce.

WOW!! Worth the effort, and then a lot more!I can't get over how excellent this is! Man, what an ingenious application. Kudo's to you, Greg, as I join the very large chorus of devotees!

Thanks again - kerpa.
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This is the best iphone app yet! Most other magic apps seem to be 'showing what the phone can do' while the performer just gets credit for 'knowing how its done'... I hate to say it but kind of like a modern tenyo gimmick. With iForce the credit goes to the performer/spectator where it belongs.

Works great for zodiac signs. You just need to ask them if their birthday is more towards the beginning of the year or the end of the year, and have 2 presets. Ask them like this; "Your birthday isn't in the first half of the year, is it?" ("thought so/didnt think so")
Because of the 8 outs you can have an overlap of 2 signs on each half so if theirs any hesitation in their response to the question you can cut them off and say "don't even tell me." Either way it seems like you knew all along.

Great work Greg!

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Thank you so much b,

I really love all your work man. I know you're a fan of cell phone magic, so I'm glad that iForce has joined your army of entertainers.

take care,
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The evolution of iForce continues . . .

YES . . . Apple just approved "Doodle!".
This is what you had all asked for, and tonight "Doodle!" is available for purchase from the iTunes App store for 99 cents:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/doodle/id337850431?mt=8&uo=6

You'll probably notice that the software company that we created for "Doodle!" is called "Recreation Software" NOT "Rostami Magic". This was to further hide iForce from any secret-seekers.

The icon and the splash screen for "Doodle" is EXACTLY the same as "iForce". So if someone tries to bust your magic by downloading "Doodle" they will find nothing more then a simple doodling application. Smile

In less then 2 weeks Apple will also approve the latest version of iForce. We have a few surprises coming up in the new iForce. Of course the biggest change, we're going to drop the "(codename: Doodle)" from the title; so the program is simply going to be "iForce" and the icon will be the now familiar hand with lightning.

I would love to hear your thoughts and insight about this,
Greg Rostami
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I see the new Doodle application in the app store. Once the iForce update is ready and the name changes, this will become very well hidden!

I do, however, believe that they should not have included the little part in the Doodle description about being for magicians and mentalists. I think they should've just left it saying it was to jot notes down. They also could've described the features of this doodle app (five colors, draw curves easily...) this would make it seem more like a description to convince people to buy this app.

Adding the section about magicians and mentalsts took some of the "normality" away from the app.
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Hi, I just bought the app and it is sensational.

With respect, may I say that in some ways, I wish that iForce had been priced much higher. I believe a Stradivarius has been marketed and priced as a ukulele. In the right hands, a Stradivarius can make magic -- it is an instrument of potential awaiting the hands and mind of genius -- yet anyone can pick it up and make a noise on it.

I know that a lot of heart-searching went on in pricing this product and, from a business point of view, perhaps the exactly correct decision was taken. But I worry that, because this thing is so good, its life expectancy has been drastically reduced as a consequence. (I'm thinking Princess trick, Svengali deck and all other brilliant innovations both ancient and new that are now virtually useless because they are pretty much public domain.)

We've already seen the wise guys mentally dismantling the method on other forums. The two-bit punters only care about the mechanics. "It's got four strings? It's a ukulele! See? It goes Plunk!"

Ah well. Great work guys, truly great work. Let's hope it lasts for at least a little while.
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Is it too late to jack the price up radically -- say to $20-25? Hell, I'd send you my missing $20 in a flash.
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On 2009-11-10 00:01, Greg Rostami wrote:
The evolution of iForce continues . . .

I would love to hear your thoughts and insight about this,
Greg Rostami


You're awesome Greg! I am so impressed with iForce, it is the COMPLETE package. Thank you so much for the detailed instructions, the flexible application, and the new Doodle app. This is by far the best iPhone magic app that has been released to date, hands down!

Thank you!
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I just changed the Doodle app description (it may take a while for it to take effect).

I had only added the magic part in the description to help explain why a magician like yourself would have found and used such an app. This was to entice the seeker to be curious and purchase the app to find out for themselves that you really are magic. It sounds like you guys/gals would prefer not to mention magic at all.

So here is the new description...

Doodle is a simple sketching application that allows you to jot a quick note without all of the extra bells and whistles getting in your way.

Doodle is as simple of an app as you can find. It has only one screen. Jot your note, and it's there the next time you launch it.

* Uses smooth curves to render your drawing in all of its glory
* Allows you to choose from one of five colors
* Simple unlimited undo feature that even works across sessions
* Trash feature to clear your entire doodle

"Doodle! - Saving the world, one tree at a time"

P.S. - If applelover8520 is out there, could you please modify your 4 star review of iForce if you like this new description. Smile

Thanks for the input,
-Randy
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