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On 2009-12-27 13:54, Steve James wrote:
I have the Dear Mr Fantasy book,do you feel it"s worth buying the dvd just for the new material?
Thanks.


Hard to say. Mostly, I agree with Muse, above. I am a huge Bannon fan, and "Dear Mr. Fantasy" is my favorite magic book. In addition to being a great thinker and creator of tricks, Bannon is also a fantastic writer -- certainly one of the best around when it comes to books about magic. I really do think that when it comes to instruction that print is his medium, which is not to say that his video instruction isn't good, just that it's not as satisfying to me as his writing. If you have the book, I don't think you'll get a huge amount out of seeing the tricks performed. The tricks he chose, like "Power of Poker," for example, don't really involve the kind of timing and presentational nuances that can pay off for the viewer watching them performed by their creator. An exception might be the Ace assemblies, if you like that plot. As for the new stuff, for me, "Einstein Overkill" was just okay, and the various kick-back sandwich effects that all string together are pretty good -- those are the ones I will learn. (The first, "Watching the Detectives," however, is a renamed "Among the Discards," so you may already have that from Magic Magazine). "The Bannon Triumph" is his "Play it Straight Triumph" from "Impossibilia." If you don't have that book, then that's a great trick you can learn here.

As has been said on this thread, the interview segments are good but quite short -- it would have been nice if those really stretched out. In short, I enjoyed these disks and am happy I have them, but for Bannon newcomers, unless someone is a diehard "visual learner," though, I'd recommend starting with "Dear Mister Fantasy."
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On 2009-12-27 16:21, bugjack wrote:
I'd have to try it with cards in hand, but I'm pretty sure that "Origami Prediction" won't preserve the order of a seven-card stack , which would make it hard to do a phone number reveal.


I'd be greatly surprised if the phone number was preserved in the sequential mix-up the cards are going through. If they did, that would be a miracle.

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On 2009-12-27 16:52, Rpascual wrote:
I guess that somehow we can rearrange without the spectators knowing... if that makes any sense. I had not thought about the phone number idea. Sounds great.


That's more like what I had in mind. Part of the facination of using the 7 numbers of a phone number is to have them first appear in a random order and ask the participant if the numbers mean anything to her or have any significance for her.

Some people are able to see patterns and, if they "see" their phone number, it freaks them out. If they don't "see" their phone number, start moving a few of the numbers into the "phone number order" but keep a few digits transposed. It'll give you lots of opportunity for by-play--particularly if you ultimately start correcting the last few remaining digits-and their phone number leaps out at them.

I.E., Maybe a person's 249-7821 telephone number might first naturally "come out" or be arragned as 429-7812...then 249-7812...and finally 249-7821. Hope you get the picture I am inartfuly trying to convey.

During the fishing process, you might wish to ask some humorous questions like: "Is this the bank account number for one of your off-shore Cayman Island bank accounts? Is this your bank pin number...a friend's phone number, part of your Social Security number, your highest Scrabble score, etc....?" Then move a few of the numbers around and then ask: "Howabout this number? Does it hold any significance for you?" Etc.

Just a thought as I sit here attempting to brainstorm.

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Mike
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Mike, that is a very nice alternate way to perform "Origami Poker Revisited" (the one with a Royal Flush ending).

When I read the book "Six. Impossible. Things.", I found its "prediction without a prediction" structure attracting because it can be setup right in front of the spectators. However it seems to be missing something strong in the ending.

With this "phone number ending" approach, it saves the effort of having a written setup as in the original effect, but at the same time concludes with, IMHO, a better "prediction without a prediction" than a Royal Flush. I will be tyring this presentation next time I perform to my friends. Thanks Mike.

Just one more thing, it does not matter whether you use 7 or 8 or whatever number of digits in your "phone number ending". And you may also use a 10, a Queen ("Q" looks a bit like "0") or a Joker for the zero.

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Bannon is superb. I'm so out of touch. Had no idea about this DVD set. Sounds terrific.
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Thanks guys for your replies.
Turk,were you on the old UK, Magictricks site?
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On 2009-12-28 08:28, houston_3721 wrote:
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Just one more thing, it does not matter whether you use 7 or 8 or whatever number of digits in your "phone number ending". And you may also use a 10, a Queen ("Q" looks a bit like "0") or a Joker for the zero.

Cheers,
Houston


Hi, Huston.

I'm glad you enjoyed the telephone number variation. The reason I only mentioned a 7 digit phone number is because it would be more easily able to be "recognized" by more people (i..e, those who are not fanatical anagram and Sudoku enthusiasts). Additionally, Bannon's set-up and instructions utilized seven cards in his prediction ending(s). But, I agree with you. You could set up the cards for just about any number of numbers that you wanted. You might have to add more cards to deal with (no pun intended) in order to achieve a revelation with more numbers being revealed.


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On 2009-12-29 16:34, Steve James wrote:
Thanks guys for your replies.
Turk,were you on the old UK, Magictricks site?


Yep! That's me. How you been doing, Steve? I miss the old UK Magictricks forum and the ole Houndshead Magic Pub forum web site. I guess all good things must come to an end.

Best,

Mike

P.S. No need to just restrict the idea to a phone number. You can use the current day's date. Or, some addresses. And, if you are working restaurants or trade shows, use alphabet Flash Cards from Creative Magic (i.e., http://www.creativemagic.net/flashcards.htm ) and spell out the restaurant's name or the trade show host's name (or the name of one of their products), etc.

You can even obtain a mentalism flavor by forcing a word and then having the cards "reveal" that word.

How about performing the effect for your "significant other" and have the alphabet flash cards spell out "I love you" or the name of her favorite flower, etc.?

Well, you get the idea.....
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I got these DVDs for Christmas, and was very excited. I have all of Bannon's books and DVD's prior to this release. I would have to agree and disagree with many of the previous posts, but not really for bad reasons.

1. Dear Mr. Fantasy is good, but it is all card work, Impossiblilia and Smoke and Mirrors have a great amount of card effects, with a "just right" mixture of non-card material. For an introduction to Bannon I would try to get a hold of these two books first, however, finding them may be more difficult.

2. I think the multiple prediction of the Origami Prediction is great. I see no issue with it being "preset", and there are similar effects that use the same premise, that work well ("Little Bunny Card Trick"). Additionally, the presentation, if done correctly, can help this situation. Honestly, even after knowing the method, you may still not believe it can work.

3. Power of Poker has been a great effect for me, and I didn't think it could be improved. I was wrong, the new handling fixes the points that I had with the effect previously.

4. I do agree that I didn't care much for Einstein Overkill. It just seems too forced to me.

5. The Bullet Train (three phase ace routine) was something that I always wanted to do, but just couldn't quite picture in my mind. This DVD went along way in helping me "see" the routine. I have to disagree that people who think DVD learning is not the way to go, I think they work well, hand-in-hand with Books.

(What I really would like to see is books come with performance only DVD's of the effects. I think there are many hidden gems in books, which are never performed, because people don't like the description, or they may seem too complicated at first. Maybe before DVDs it forces people to work harder with individual effects, even the bad ones. We can always learn from good and bad effects.)

Anyway, I liked the DVDs, I thought there might be an update to Play it Straight Triumph (there is one small point, but not really that big of a difference). I also agree that I would have like the "interviews" to be longer. I thought that one sentence answers were too common. If they hadn't been there I wouldn't have felt I had lost any value, but since some are so short I feel like I am wanting more.

One thing to consider when buying Bannon's books and DVDs I have found is that some of the items in the book are better then they appear on DVD (due to handling changes) and vice-versa. However, if you take it in date of release (newest to oldest) you can clearly see that he is always working on improving the method, even to effects that may seem perfect. He is top notch in that respect.

So what is this Cardzilla creature I keep hearing about? I think it is like the Loch Ness Monster, you don't believe it exists, but people just keep talking about it...
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Hi Turk, guess what?
Im still doing, Collinspell, hehe!
Happy new year.
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Power of poker, Im currently shuffling 10 card packet by upjogging every second card and stripping packet out to top {twice} then doing 2 infaros.
Starting off with cards in the DMF book order.
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Got the DVD and booklet for Christmas. Bravo, both are excellent and I highly recommend them. Lots of good food for thought. I like this variation "4 Fold Foresight" which IMO finally makes ShuffleBored a usable routine (original requires too much setup for my taste). By the way, instead of the using a paper folded up as described in the booklet, I use the "book fold" that was taught as part of Simon Aronson's "Random Sampled Shuffle-Bored" a few years ago in MAGIC magazine. This booklet idea is better IMO as it does not give away how many predictions you will end up making (e.g. with regular folded paper it is clear you will have as many predictions as needed to fully unfold the paper).

Also, the Riverboat Poker routine is excellent although I have yet to try it on a spectator.

Lots of good stuff here -- he also teaches a good multiple shift described in DMF.

Kevin
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On 2009-12-29 20:17, dinger136 wrote:
... So what is this Cardzilla creature I keep hearing about? I think it is like the Loch Ness Monster, you don't believe it exists, but people just keep talking about it...


You might want to check the extra bonus section, there you will understanding what and why we talked about for years.

Seems I also have something to read on upon my retirement too...

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Has anyone considered an Oil & water routine for Origami Poker?
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Mr Bannon's Bullet Train Aces finally on tape! ...have been waiting so long for this Smile
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Dead Reckoning is one of my favourites. Its in the dvd as well as in the dear Mr Fantasy book. The card is freely chosen, really lost all done by the spec, and the mental revealation makes this a very special piece of card magic I think, and the reactions I got were just terrific !
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I like this DVD, but prefer smoke and mirror book....
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This is a superb set-but I agree with those who say that John Bannon is really a book guy, and the DMF book is even better. Still with Bannon, you really need to get it all: books, dvd and lecture notes... Its all reasonably priced, so there are no excuses....

-Rob
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No library is complete without Bannon's books and DVDs.
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I agree, Bannon is very clever and his work is easy to understand.
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Just got Bannon's and was imediately impressed.
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The best thing about this DVD set is how much it lends itself to let you modify, take apart, reassemble, and patter it to your own style and presentation. With the tips and interviews given by Bannon throughout the DVD, this is probably one of my most favorite DVD sets I've ever owned.

Not to mention, everything is explained so clearly! It really brought my card magic to another level.
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