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This is my cold deck switch idea that came up on this weekend


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUpPdJhTW78

is ti looks fine to use?
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I'm not qualified to comment as to if it would fly in a real game but it looks pretty clean to me!
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The action of the left hand tilting forward to take the deck and then back looks unnatural to me. If you really were squaring the deck like that you would expect the left hand to come forward, not go back.

Whether it's good enough depends in a large part on what you're doing with the deck that's going out.
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Cool Splice, given the right circumstances I think it would be fine.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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Flashing that bottom card is something to be avoided. Also, you should be aware that spilling the deck into your lap leaves you in a vulnerable position until you clean up - with the better switches I'm aware of, the out-deck is under your complete control during the entire process.

Still, I'm sure your handling could fly in some soft games.

Also, you may have discovered this independently, but I know the basic movement of this switch has been done before by many people. View SF's "Quicker than the Eye" and Doc's "Cold Deck Expose" video just to name a few online videos, to see them perform it on someone else's deal. In fact, Doc's out-deck remains in his hand (watch 1:28 into the video).
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If you flashed the bottom card like that in a real game, you'd get seriously chastised for it.
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This is a classic cooler... From that position, there are numerous ways of getting rid of the warm deck without it hitting your lap. Continue experimenting...

If you are going to ditch the deck like that, I wouldn't tap the deck flashing the bottom. Reach for a check, a drink, etc..
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In a game the botton would not be flashed, as he would have a cut card on the bottom which would hide the bottom card, so that is no problem at all.
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Thanks for all your comments & feedbacks!
I really appreciate it

Splice: You gave me huge tip that I've never think of, Great thanks to you.

MaitreD: I heard well thank you but I think if the deck remains in the hand, it's still vulnerable, isn't it? I sat like Budda and I shoot the deck in the hole between my groin and foot. I know basic moves and saw Doc's video. I changed a little for my own.

Silverking: Thank you! I am working on that bottom. It was just a fresh idea for myself Smile

I will work more and will comeback with improved Ver.

Again, thank you

peace v
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Eventually you're going to need to grab the deck in your lap and transfer it somewhere else. When you have a switch that remains in the hands, you're one step closer to cleaning up, in addition to eliminating any problems associated with the deck hitting your lap (noises, spilling, etc.).

Besides, most people don't bother learning the correct way of lapping with your legs in a comfortable and natural position giving the deck a secure and consistent place to land. I suggest anyone interested in learning the proper way to lap look into the work of Slydini. Sitting with your legs crossed and tucked under your butt like a 6 year-old would look really stupid at a poker table. If you're going to do it, do it right.
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On 2009-11-02 19:31, tommy wrote:
In a game the botton would not be flashed, as he would have a cut card on the bottom which would hide the bottom card, so that is no problem at all.

Good point Tommy.

I've played in lots of 5-10 games that didn't have a cut card though.
Depends on local tradition me-thinks.
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I love you guys, truely Smile
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About having a cut card, unless you had a duplicate with the deck being held out before the switch, it would change the mechanics of this switch entirely to retain the cut card in play. You'd probably want to resort to a different switch if a cut card was being used.

Most of the home poker games I've played in don't use a cut card. BJ is a different story though.
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Oh, I tapped with intention because of the noise that drops on my lap

and MaitreD : if my reply was offended you, I apologize.
Of course, It should be done right, I strongly agree.
It was only my thought. this just came up on this weekends. no practices what so ever.
I just wanted know what should be fixed

I am sorry and thank you.
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Euro, you didn't offend or annoy me at all. I realized after I had posted the "get it done right" statement it sounded harsher than I intended, but it was too late to edit it. No need to apologize, it was a miscommunication on my part.

You're doing good and I like your enthusiasm and curiosity. Keep it up my friend. There are few people who are as appreciative as you are to get feedback and criticism, so that you for that because it makes it much more enjoyable to help you out.
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While it is kind of cool I do not know how this situation would ever come into play in a money card game. By that I mean if you are the dealer how do you deal with another deck in your left hand. If you are to the right of the dealer and he offers you a cut you just cut the cards and leave them on the table and the dealer completes the cut.

However in a magic performance I see this having some merit as a deck switch, Example in Blizzard when they are mixing the 4 cards.
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Great topic and THANKS to the knowable for weighing in!

MMc
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On 2009-11-03 00:14, acesover wrote:
While it is kind of cool I do not know how this situation would ever come into play in a money card game. By that I mean if you are the dealer how do you deal with another deck in your left hand. If you are to the right of the dealer and he offers you a cut you just cut the cards and leave them on the table and the dealer completes the cut.


I believe the context of the performance is, Euro is the dealer and someone else is cutting the deck. Since nobody was around while he was filming, he simply cut it himself.
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On 2009-11-02 21:52, Maitre D wrote:
About having a cut card, unless you had a duplicate with the deck being held out before the switch, it would change the mechanics of this switch entirely to retain the cut card in play. You'd probably want to resort to a different switch if a cut card was being used.


If you can get your hands on a duplicate deck, it shouldn't be a problem to get your hands on a duplicate cut card.
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On 2009-11-03 01:26, Maitre D wrote:
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On 2009-11-03 00:14, acesover wrote:
While it is kind of cool I do not know how this situation would ever come into play in a money card game. By that I mean if you are the dealer how do you deal with another deck in your left hand. If you are to the right of the dealer and he offers you a cut you just cut the cards and leave them on the table and the dealer completes the cut.


I believe the context of the performance is, Euro is the dealer and someone else is cutting the deck. Since nobody was around while he was filming, he simply cut it himself.


OK. In your senario who completes the cut, the dealer or the person to whom the cut was offered? If it is the dealer who completes the cut how did he deal with the other deck in his hand. If it is the person to whom the cut was offered there is no reason for that person to pick up the cards after cutting and square the deck. I believe I covered both thoughts on this. I am not saying that there is anything wrong with this in fact it is kind of cool as long as you do not have to get up for a while or you better have a place to ditch a lapped deck. I believe it would play in a deck switch in a "card trick" such as "blizzard" but not in a "card game".
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